Hi guys,

I was wondering if theres any chance that Gimp would be ported over to Morphos or is it not likely to happen?

In theory every of over a thousand of MorphOS 2.x users can do the port. How can one predict behaviour of such a big group of people? It is simply impossible.

> over a thousand of MorphOS 2.x users

Are we at it already? Nice to hear. How do you conclude from the number of licenses to the number of licensees?

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The point is not what he concludes but that he is right about the fact that pretty much anyone who has the needed skills can do the porting. We just recently released an updated SDK with original gcc 2.95.3 and gcc 4.4.x compilers, so everyone who likes to can try to start the porting ....
If everyone just waits for another one to do the work, that port is unlikely to happen definitely :)

> The point is not what he concludes

Read again what I *specifically* responded to (hint: It's in the quote). I think it's news for most MorphZone members that the "one thousand" mark has been crossed. One month ago we were at 921 licenses (not licensees). That would be at least almost 3 new licenses a day for the last month, which I consider really fantastic. And considering that there's on average more than 1.0 licenses per licensee it should be obvious that "over a thousand of MorphOS 2.x users" (which equals 1001 at least) means 1001+x licenses even.

Edit: According to pampers we're at 944 licenses right now, which would mean that "over a thousand of MorphOS 2.x users" can't be true yet. Too bad.

> he is right about the fact that pretty much anyone who has the
> needed skills can do the porting.

Yes, I didn't object to that.

[ Edited by Andreas_Wolf on 2010/8/13 22:20 ]

@thread

Bounty? ;)

@Andreas_Wolf

You seem to forget that some of MorphOS 2.x users may still use the unlicensed demo version, so Krashan may be actually true.

> You seem to forget that some of MorphOS 2.x users may still use the
> unlicensed demo version, so Krashan may be actually true.

That's stretching it by far. Krashan surely didn't mean to propose to attempt porting GIMP using MorphOS without keyfile, did he? And he obviously didn't mean cross-developing either because that wouldn't be restricted to MorphOS users at all.

IIRC in "counter thread" just paypal transactions are counted, right?
What about all those who payed e.g. on meetings, etc? They won't be counted then, would they?
So actually the 1000 might be surpassed allready.


[ Edited by Bladerunner on 2010/8/14 3:29 ]

> IIRC in "counter thread" just paypal transactions are counted, right? What about all
> those who payed e.g. on meetings, etc? They won't be counted then, would they?

That's a good argument. But I don't know the answer to that. I'd really like to know if we already passed one thousand licenses (which still wouldn't say the same about the number of licensees, which Krashan referred to).

still though most of us can't program for $#!^
Soo... it's either through the App's store or naught for me
I got discouraged...will try next year

I suspect that Gimp takes more than 30 minutes to compile, on my mini (1.42 GHz) with Linux it takes 40-50 minutes to build and install from what I can read from my build logs (using gcc-4.4.4). Ofcourse you can probably leave it over night or something in slowmess mode and hope that it will be done still :)

For Gimp port, something like GTK2MUI could be used, which would make the porting much easier.

On the other hand, I don't know the status of GTK2MUI project (which in itself is also a huge project), but I guess it isn't even nearly "complete enough".

Obviously same goes for AROS and OS4 aswell, no port before there's such a wrapper (or someone spends huge amount of work manually converting GUI to native each time it changes)

If you ask me, the wrapper would be the most sensible way for GIMP port.

Jupp3

I think maybe 10% of that number are qualified to do a compile of Gimp, so i assuming its jokes...

AFAIK GTK2MUI project is at a halt... hope not

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Could? I thought having GTK is mandatory. That said, it's almost like porting Linux to MorphOS in order to have a paint package. I'd stay clear of that, and settle with our own painting solutions, with its limitations and all.

Using foreign software is cheating. Alright, I love cheating with MPlayer and OWB, though... But these two aren't the same case as GIMP would be. Or are they? If so, why do they already work on MorphOS?

Not to mention the MorphOS specific parts they have.

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Yes, GTK-API would be practically mandatory for GIMP. The "inner implementation" of GTK shouldn't really matter for the program, and with GTK2MUI, it would be just a thin wrapper, that makes "MUI API act like GTK".

Maybe a bit simplified, and don't know if GIMP has introduced any new nasty dependencies lately

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If it was so easy, how come that MorphOS (gladfully) doesn't have that already? Did I miss something obvious?

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You mean like this?

Although I wouldn't be too surprised if it still was too incomplete for something like GIMP.

Sure, I don't like the idea of relying on such "foreign" apps too much either, but the point is, it's way WAY less worse than running it within totally alien environment within the OS (X11)

(that's like what basically every Amiga user with general unix experience has been able to do since mid-90's or something)

And such wrapper-using version should be the first one for which a public release could be considered.

As for GIMP itself... Well, I like the UI of almost any other GFX app better, even what we have natively / 68k emulated for MorphOS

Hello,

It would be very nice to use Gimp on morphos. I hope anyone could port the program for the OS. I need a good graphic program for morphos

I dislike GIMP UI as most options are ordered and work in an unexpected/unintuitive way... I liked ArtEffect GUI much more. I know it's possible to do good gfx with gimp (just like it's possible to do the same with photogenics/arteffect/TVpaint) but its UI is something I really dislike

I would prefer a new MUI app that took parts of GIMP (filters, perhaps internal code to handle layers and to apply effects internally). GTK2MUI won't work well for GIMP without GDK since most of the classes are probably custom.

I like gimp as a free image manipulation program. I am firmly in the end user camp, so I won't be doing any porting myself any time soon.

What is the best MorphOS/Amiga image manipulation program? I don't need a ton of filters and effects, just solid basic functionality.

What is the best MorphOS/Amiga image manipulation program?

In my opinion there are two: TVPaint from compositing and drawing and ShowGirls for effects. Something, which joins functionality of the two would be perfect...

I have bought Art Effects on alinea-computer.de. I hope it works on morphOS perfectly. Is there a way, to open .psd (Photoshop-File) on Art Effects?!

> I have bought Art Effects on alinea-computer.de. I hope it works
> on morphOS perfectly.

You may be interested in that recent thread:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8136&forum=9

> Is there a way, to open .psd (Photoshop-File) on Art Effects?!

You got the answer already:

http://www.pegasosforum.de/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4527

Hint: ArtEffect supports datatypes.

i uses imagefx 4.5 studio and showgirls