MorphOS 2.4 out - that's great. it rus fine on my Peg and boots nicely on my mini. But there the first issues start:
I have a Mac usb aluminium keyboard with integrated hub. This one: http://store.apple.com/de/product/MB869D/A?mco=MTE4Njc2Mjg

While the hub works, teh kbd itself doesn't. On my Efika with 2.2 or 2.3 it used to work (cannot check now, Efika currently not here).

The Help Desk section of the MorphOS website mentions that only the A1048 and M7803 keyboard models have been successfully tested with MorphOS 2.4.

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Okay, i only had just read the hardware page and there I hadn't found anything about Apple kbds. Okay, will proceed tomorrow with another kbd. But interestingly this Apple kbd works (worked?) on Efika.

I can confirm that those Alu case keyboards seem to work ok with Efika's OHCI 1.1 interface (which also received driver fixes with the 2.4 release btw). On the Mac mini, the EHCI 2.0 driver is responsible for handling it, though. Why it doesn't work, has yet to be sorted out. We didn't want to postpone the release because of that issue.

I never use morphos but... its normal the flickering? i dont reach a stable display.

can it be booted off the iso img from an external hd?. I'm keeping the mac osx and want it on the usb drive

(Minor) issue during installation:

Unfortunately, whilst starting iWizard it transpired that my installation CD was corrupted (read/write error). "Not a problem," thought I. "I'll just burn another copy, replace the corrupt one in the drive and continue from here." Unfortunately, by the time I'd got the disc burned, made a cup of tea and rolled a cigarette, the 30-minutes was up and the system slowed down considerably.
I'm mildly surprised that you guys haven't found a way to suspend the countdown during installation, as this has been commented upon before.
I know that I could have just restarted the installation process, and it's only a minor issue I suppose, but considering that the average user is probably going to make a couple of cups of tea, and think about the options presented during the installation process (let alone a novice user trying to install it for the first time) it's not unreasonable for this to take >30 minutes.
The appearance of the timeout during installation of the OS then appears "silly" to be honest.

Aside from this minor irritation (the installation is still chuntering away in the background as I type) everything seems to be going very well.
Thanks again guys for coming up with the goods. I will be registering in the next few weeks, and updating the registered version on the Peg2 in the meantime.

Love the butterfly on blue apple logo btw

After some hours testing mos2.4 over a 1,42 mac mini... i have very graphic issues, slow downs, unusability.

By example when i try some of the themes, previews appears before a screen flashes with some corrupted screen, when i make highter owb screen goes slowly the pointer. My mos dont fly any solution?

Maybe a bad installation or some bottleneck, by the way thanks for the work.

It's very likely a low vmem issue.
What kind of resolution/depth are you using ? How many screens ?
If you use 3D Layers ("enhanced display" checkmark in screen settings, which is default, i think), it also eats more video ram. In that case, you can either disable 3D layers completely, or at least disable double/triple buffering in "prefs/display engine".

Unfortunately, it seems that openfirmware only partially detects my keyboard (PS2 keyboard through a PS2-USB adapter).
Whilst I can hold down 'C' to boot from the DVD (thus allowing me to install MOS2.4), the 'ALT' key is not recognised (or so I guess) as the system just boots straight into OSX without any boot menu appearing. Bugger.

Obviously, this has nothing to do with MorphOS, and is simply a limitation of openfirmware's support for my particular hardware setup.

Damn frustrating though..

Random suggestions:
You could try the combination to enter openfirmware (tho it's even less likely to work if C doesn't). If it doesn't work, there's also a nvram command in osx that you could use to set auto-boot to off, which would allow you to manually boot from CD. But then, what if your keyboard doesn't work at all in openfirmware? Well, i guess you'd need to reset to factory defaults or to get a working keyboard at worst. :)

[ Edited by Fab on 2009/10/13 4:34 ]

@Fab

thanks for the suggestions

I have been able to install MOS (holding down C did work).
However I am just unable to boot into MOS (ALT does not work).

It's there, on the hard drive, I just can't get to it. Frustrating, no?

I've decided to call it a night for now - I'll be picking up a new wired USB apple keyboard tomorrow (assuming the local apple store have one of the compatible ones in stock).

Out of interest, have the dev team/beta testing team all been using apple keyboards, or are some using generic PC keyboards?
I'm just wondering whether this incompatibility is endemic with PC keyboards, or just limited to my particular model.

Thanks again for the feedback, I'll update the thread once I find a solution

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Im using 1280x1024 the native one of my lcd, will try this setting but if thie radeon 9200 can move osx why not morphos? piru?s mac mini is also a 32mb gfxmem and is one of the devs, thanks for the help.

Hi!

You can try to put in the MacOSX Install dvd and then change the
boot partition in the settings.
I cant test it myself, but it should work, works with windows on my mac.

@kickstart

32MB is very very little really. I'd recommend that you stick to 1 screen, 16 bit screenmodes or disable Enhanced Display.

I have a MacMin, uA1-C and Efika attached to a monitor through a KVM switch. MacOS, Morphos and AmigaOS4,1 all display fine on the Monitor screen, when selected.

However, when I attempt to boot the MacMini off the MorphOS 2.4 CDROM the monitor displays out of frequency range while MorphOS boots. It remains out od range after the boot process has completed. If I remove the KVM switch from the setup and connect the MacMini directly to the monitor the display is fime. I'm actually posting this from OWB on the MacMini.

TrevorD



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[ Edited by TrevorDick on 2009/10/13 9:23 ]

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So far, your keyboard works even better than mine... imagine that :-) As I can't use the C key to boot on a CD.
To enter the OF, you can either use OSX's nvram tool like fab suggested or keep the power button pressed at startup until the OF is displayed. At this point, maybe your keyboard will work (mine does) and you will be able to setenv various variables to boot MorphOS or some forth script.

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Some KVM seems to have issues with DDC.
You could try to use the boot menu (keep F1 pressed at boot or use the "BootMenu" or "BM" boot.img argument) to enforce a standard resolution/frequencies combo.

Hi,

I had problems in login/posting previously, dunno why.

Anyway I think I'll try to install MorphOS first, then enable a wired internet (got wifi so far). Hence the question - is internet connectivity required during any part of installation?

Another issue - I already prepared my HD, got 70 MB with OSX working on it, I left 10G blank for MorphOS also. Despite of having to split that in two halves, can I simply follow the dual-boot installing guide without a need of actually reinstalling my OSX?

@DiskDoctor

Internet isn't required by the installation process. You only need it to register.

There is no need to remove OSX, just create the needed partitions from Disk Utility.

Follow the guide :)

OK thanks, I have bypassed the KVM switch issue for a moment as I have an even greater problem.

1. On the Efika, MorphOS2.4 does not appear to permit an upgrade from a licensed version of 2.2. The upgrade option is greyed out in the installation process.

2. After completing what I though was a successful new installation of 2.4, MorphOS hangs at the MorphOS 2.4 loading splashscreen?

Still investigating.

TrevorD

UPDATE: OK solved the booting issue. Because of the "HDD format"/SFS bugs in 2.2 I had to reformat the HDD. In time honored Amiga fashion, this time I created 2 partitions:- System and Work.

However I forgot to make the System partition bootable Anyway fixed and now boots to MorphOS workbench. Pity that I had to perform a completely new installation rather than a simple update?

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[ Edited by TrevorDick on 2009/10/13 13:13 ]

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Thanks, man! I owe you a beer when I'm in Torun

@TrevorDick

1. That's pretty odd. Means the installer wasn't able to locate the files it identifies the version from. Quite likely if you touched stuff inside :MorphOS directory.

2. Using a separate partition for the boot.img by chance ? (though, there really isn't a point on Efika). Perhaps you renamed your boot.img at some point ?

@jacadcaps

Thanks for the advice. The booting problem was finger trouble on my part! See above.

TrevorD

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Thanks, used the "power button held down" method - worked like a charm.
I was surprised to find that "boot boot.img" worked fine form there with no additional arguements

One minor new issue though: when selecting settings/system from the ambient menu, I'm asked to insert volume Morphosboot in any drive (ie the installatoin media).
Is anyone else experiencing this?
Can anyone tell me how to change the path for this menu option to point to the system drive?
No great shakes, in the meantime I can just use the cli to temporarily assign the system drive (assign Morphosboot: SYS:) in each session.