Gee...Do you think we should start a thread on abortion?
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    All apologies to Andre, but I think his decision to end the thread on the Ukrainian situation was poorly thought out.
    It's not like we were talking about a unresolvable politically or religiously charged situation like the discussions centered on topics like abortion.

    So...the question becomes, are we limited to subjects directly connected to MorphOS (or face censorship)?
    And...should we be?
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    Quote:

    Jim wrote:
    So...the question becomes, are we limited to subjects directly connected to MorphOS (or face censorship)?
    And...should we be?


    Nobody involved in this discussion has been censored. What has happened is that the participants have been strongly encouraged to focus their attention on other topics. Locking a discussion thread is obviously a mostly symbolic act but it has produced the desired results so far at least.

    This is primarily a website for discussions about information technology. Widely off-topic discussions have been welcome as long as they have been kept brief (the recent inquiry regarding a Bulgarian prison is a good example) but if there is a sudden surge of these type of discussions it will be necessary to create a new forum for them, which will be hidden on the frontpage by default (just like the "Coffee House" is hidden on amiga.org).
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    Quote:

    Jim wrote:
    All apologies to Andre, but I think his decision to end the thread on the Ukrainian situation was poorly thought out.
    It's not like we were talking about a unresolvable politically or religiously charged situation like the discussions centered on topics like abortion.



    Abortion is what is, the legalized killing of your own child. It has nothing to do with religion, I am not religious. As a parent and a member of the human race I am against killing your own children. Take personal responsibility and don't blindly support Eugenics.

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    All future children should be aborted to stop over population of earth.

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    hooligan wrote:
    All future children should be aborted to stop over population of earth.

    Next.



    With due apologies to Redrumloa, I'd did actually found that rather amusing (if you can take a comment on abortion as amusing - and I grew up during the "dead baby" joke craze, so...).

    Frankly, I wish I hadn't used that example as it brought out people real opinions (and Red, sorry, but I'm completely dedicated to a women's right to choose on this issue).

    Anyway, while I don't agree with Andre as to whether or not closing the thread referenced was censorship (it obviously was), he does have a point about the thread lingering on our front page.

    I'm not sure that a coffeehouse style forum would do anything other than trivialize the issues discussed, so...

    As a favor to the moderators I will try to refrain from posting any further topics related to other "hot" topics not connect to technology.
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    I'll take my personal responsability, If I don't want
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    Are you gonna feed or educate my future children?

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    ...BTW, Political threads suck in a computer forum....


    That probably is the only real conclusion we can come to here.
    While I have strong opinions on the topic mention here and on the Ukrainian situation, perhaps this isn't the proper forum to voice them.



    [ Edited by Jim 22.08.2014 - 09:42 ]
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    I am pro life.

    Because abortions are (literally) disgusting.

    And even more, because there has been infants aborted after successful birth.

    Abort fetus only if there are lethal health complications to fetus and / or mother.

    Simple?

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    Oh God!
    I've created a monster.

    Um, OK...
    And how would you prevent an abortion if the mother desires it?
    Have someone (or some organization) charged with the responsibility of keeping track of all pregnant women?
    Criminalize the actions of women who choose not to carry a pregnancy to full term?
    Kill the doctors (oh, wait, they are already doing that)?

    Andre?
    Would you consider locking this one too?
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    I'm pro-closing this kind of topics.. Seriously, there is enough places on the internet where dis kind of things can be discussed. Keep MorphZone they way it is..
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    In_Correct wrote:
    Simple?



    Far from it. The world is not black and white.

    I mention pregnancy by rape just for starters. Simplify that.
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    Have the doctors actually killed each other?
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    hooligan wrote:
    Quote:

    In_Correct wrote:
    Simple?



    Far from it. The world is not black and white.

    I mention pregnancy by rape just for starters. Simplify that.



    I forgot that one. That issue would justify abortion, but I really hope they must not abort it after birth.
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    pampers wrote:
    I'm pro-closing this kind of topics.. Seriously, there is enough places on the internet where dis kind of things can be discussed. Keep MorphZone they way it is..


    Yes Wiktor, this thread should be aborted.
    I have not stopped smacking myself in the head since I choose to use this example.

    Yo, moderators?
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    Great, at least my Swedish and Polish friends concur.
    Guys, maybe I should learn to STFU?
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    @Jim

    It's not about STFU, it's about not starting posts where 1, you can't win. 2, you will gain nothing and 3, people are likely to get pissed of because of the topic. And 4, it really has nothing to do with what we are here to talk about.

    When I want drama and people calling each other names over politics I go to Facebook.

    I personally don't want to know everyones point of view of sensitive subjects. Because I rather talk about MorphOS and like everyone instead.
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    Thanks Johannes,
    I wasn't originally looking for drama.
    I just wanted to needle some of my European friends over their government's apparent slow response to a political crisis.
    But, while slow, the global community DID respond.
    So that topic is now somewhat pointless.
    And as to abortion...well I never should have dragged that one out (as it IS a STFU topic - no matter what side you are on).
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    Yasu wrote:
    @Jim


    When I want drama and people calling each other names over politics I go to Facebook.




    Exactly!




    Please do not turn this site into Facebook. I did not even bother to read the other thread topic that was locked recently, back when it was still open. Because those types of threads are annoying. I am only interested about news with MorphOS.
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    So...come on guys, lock this mofo up, please.
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    Yes, please lock it. It is bad even when discussing which is the best hardware. :-P
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