@ TMHGM
Oh, indeed. Deep in my brain that info should have been already, but sometimes there are these traps/habbits of your native language ( DE Maschine - SE maskin - EN machine) and you just don't recognize these wrong spellings.

I do remember Frank mentioning something about an X600 driver for the iMac.

BTW You're right about the G5 prices Dave. Now is not the time to buy. The prices are a little too high. When I can get a 2.3 Ghz model for about $100 I'll consider it (I don't want a 2.5 or 2.7 - the water cooling just gives them another component to fail).

And the iMacs do look attractive. Single core, compact, and surprisingly energy efficient.

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I think they are quite attractive for OS X or Linux, too. The panels used by Apple are of good quality, the 2.x GHz versions are fast enough for normal stuff. If you just need a fairly powerful stand alone computer (not sitting behind a KVM or recycling an existing monitor) the iMac g5 offers a really good p/p ratio - regardless whether they run MorphOS or not. A downer though is that more and more apps require x86/10.6.

The prices seem much lower than the G5 Powermacs too.
I think I might buy one to use under OSX and Ubuntu.
I'll try to get a 2.0 with X600 graphics.

> I'll try to get a 2.0 with X600 graphics.

With 2.0 GHz you'd get only Radeon 9600. To get Radeon X600 you'd have to look for 1.9 or 2.1 GHz.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMac_G5#Technical_specifications

Thanks Andreas. I'm not too familiar with the iMacs and that's useful information. A slightly faster processor and GPU will be useful.

If you get an iMac G5 I would suggest the 2.1 GHz version. Not only because it is the fastest, but also *if* (big if that is!) MorphOS supports iMac G5 one day, chances for the 2.1 GHz version seem to be best, because the teaser shown was using this particular model.
I saw the 20" 2.1 GHz version going for about 300 EUR at ebay Germany a while back and consider one myself for OSX (and if lucky one day for MorphOS, too). Unfortunately it happens more and more that recent versions of some OS X programs require x86. But I think a couple of years it will be rather fine with ppc on OS X still if not used as only and main machine.

LISTEN GUYS AND LISTEN GOOD

Both Jacek and Frank M told you guys NOT to buy a G5 to run morphos. This should tell you A LOT. Maybe 2 yrs from now if ever would be a port to g5. Its only proof of concept.

Wake up! get a nice g4 pmac what do you need a g5 for anyway? Name 1 app

One program? Mplayer. I've got a 1.8 Ghz 7447 and I still have trouble with HD Video.
I've never regretted moving up to a faster processor or a more capable GPU.
Right now, we know 2.8 will offer some bug fixes and possibly faster R100 and R200 performance.
Andt we can be fairly certain Powerbook support will come in a later revision (which hopefully could get us 3D R300 support).

As I can use OSX and Ubuntu now, I see no reason not to buy a G5. If it becomes supported great, if not so be it.


BTW - Why would Frank and Bigfoot be working on X600 drivers if it wasn't for iMac support? There are no AGP R600 cards (so it isn't for a G$).

> I've got a 1.8 Ghz 7447 and I still have trouble with HD Video.

That would be 1080p H264, wouldn't it? 720p H264 runs well?

> Powerbook support will come in a later revision (which hopefully
> could get us 3D R300 support).

According to what was said in November 2010, PowerBook G4 support won't be released without full (i.e. 2D and 3D) support for R300.

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7464&forum=11&post_id=78798#78798

So yes, according to that statement, PowerBook G4 support will get us 3D support for R300.

> There are no AGP R600 cards

There are. But that would have nothing to do with R300 based X600 ;-)

@Jim

There's no reason not to buy a G5 machine, these are nice and fast machines. But you should be aware that you don't buy this machine for MorphOS. In the end, it's the same as you would buy a descent intel i5 machine. Nice and fast, but not for MorphOS

>That would be 1080p H264, wouldn't it? 720p H264 runs well?

Yes. most 720P video runs OK.

>> There are no AGP R600 cards

OM F'ing G! Did I make that typo again? Yes, X600.

>There's no reason not to buy a G5 machine, these are nice and fast machines. But you should be aware that you don't buy this machine for MorphOS. In the end, it's the same as you would buy a descent intel i5 machine. Nice and fast, but not for MorphOS

When I bought my G4 Powermac I spent months using it under Ubuntu and later OSX.
If I bought a G5, it would primarily be an exploration of those later model's performance and features 9under those two OS').
If MorphOS support was introduced later, great. But if not, its a small expense to explore a very powerful PPC system.

Bought an 2x2.3 G5 last month and at 200Euro I couldn't care less wether it went unused for a year or two (or 50).

Well it is used for investigating the basics of Objective-C and Cacao .....

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> Cacao

;-)

Maybe I should've written:

"Apple's version of the NextStep-API"

And yes, a cup of hot chocolate is allway better than some crappy Java......

Btw:

Herzlich willkommen bei Kentucky schreit ficken ;)

[ Edited by Kronos on 2011/3/10 18:44 ]

"Welcome to Kentucky border fuck"?

Now I know that had to loose something in the translation.

Thanks for the encouragement Kronos.
I too can live with the G4s for MorphOS for quite a while longer, but would like to play around with a G5.

I hope I can find a deal as good as the one you got.

"Border" ???

Nah, "screams" would be right, and it was the opener of some 20 year old weekly comedy stunt in german television based on exchanging the starting letters of word in a sentence....

Amigadave's 2GHz G5 seems o.k pricewise (mine also had no HD but 2.6GB). Not so sure about the known-to-be-defective 2.5GHz...