Questions after install on Mac Mini of MorphOS 2.5
  • Cocoon
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    macsociety
    Posts: 57 from 2010/1/18
    Well, installed and booting now to MorphOS 2.5 on a Mac Mini 1.25GHz. I wiped out the mini's OS X and re-installed a fresh 10.5 on it after making my 3 partitions. Then installed MorphOS. I am booting from hard drive but install was not exactly the same as the explanation of dualboot.pdf I downloaded.

    Install seemed to go fine. At the end where my dualboot.PDF tells me this is what my window should look like right before I click the INSTALL button, mine only showed the 20GB MorphOS DH1 partition. My 1st partition DH0 was renamed to Boot as it asked and my DH1 was renamed Morph but only the DH1 Morph showed in that last window where I then clicked install, all did what it should, and when done I was able to boot from the hard drive into MorphOS. The dualboot.pdf page showed I was supposed to see the small Boot drive also. So, it worries me I did not see it.

    Then, when I boot to OS X.5, that "Boot" partition shows up and mounts and I get a damaged message on boot and says I can fix it (which I did not). So OS X sees it. I am not sure my MorphOS sees it though as I never saw a Boot hard drive icon show in the screen.

    So, what did I not do right for that first Boot partition to show at the end during the install portion? My 1st partition was a 1GB in size as that is the smallest OS X 10.5 would go down to. Then made 20GB for MorphOS to install to and 90GB for OS X.

    Curious now if I should be seeing Boot hard drive icon in MorphOS and why is OS X.5 seeing the drive as a problem and wants me to fix it?

    tj
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Bladerunner
    Posts: 418 from 2004/2/19
    As I got a Mini too recently, I went myself through the hassle of multiboot Installation, yet I have to figure out what would be the best way to do so. (Did it once on the Pegasos Plattform )
    For simple dualbooting, everything you have done seems right as far as I can tell, especially since you are able to actually dualboot. For your boot Partition not showing up in the Install Requester, I can only guess, it might be that too small partitions in the current install application don`t show up at all, while they did in MorphOS 2.4. But again, just guessing here.
    For your boot partition not showing up during normal boot this is no problem because you won`t need it anyway. If you like to make it visible, simply use the Mounter Tool (Tools drawer) and make the partition mount at boottime.

    Regarding OS X, I have no Idea how Leopard handles this, here within Tiger it just showed up. However, there are ways to make this Partition invisible for OS X, you can either follow the steps metioned in this guide(just make sure your fstab has no extension afterwards!) or use an ubuntu livecd and format your bootpartition with gparted into a "newworldboot" partition. It`ll be still a hfs partition, and MorphOS is still able to mount it, OS X however won`t (You have to get your bootdata however back again then...)

    Hope this helps
  • »22.07.10 - 09:17
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Divinity
    Posts: 498 from 2009/9/8
    @Bladerunner
    I'm waiting MorphOS 2.6 for my PowerMac FW800, and I'd like to use YABOOT as boot loader for:
    - MorphOS 2.6
    - Linux Debian
    - OSX 10.5.x
    - OSX 10.4.x
    - OSX 10.3.x
    - OSX 10.2.x

    (there are also four bays 3,5" inside the PowerMac FW800, and also I can use one or more hd external firewire for some OSX version)

    Is there a guide, tutorial ...to make these things "easy" to the end user MorphOS ?
    Someone of the MorphOS team can write a simple guide to use YABOOT for exemple with MorphOS, Linux, OSX ? I could be very useful for Mac Mini, EMac, PowerMac, and later Powerbook and Ibook I think.

    regards




    [ Edited by Divinity on 2010/7/22 12:28 ]
  • »22.07.10 - 10:26
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    Piru
    Posts: 587 from 2003/2/24
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    Quote:

    Is there a guide, tutorial ...to make these things "easy" to the end user MorphOS ?
    Someone of the MorphOS team can write a simple guide to use YABOOT for exemple with MorphOS, Linux, OSX ? I could be very useful for Mac Mini, EMac, PowerMac, and later Powerbook and Ibook I think.

    Every time I've done it I've manually edited the yaboot OF boot script. Perhaps there is an easier way to do it, but if there is I'm not aware of it.

    [ Edited by Piru on 2010/7/22 14:42 ]
  • »22.07.10 - 10:41
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Divinity
    Posts: 498 from 2009/9/8
    Quote:


    Piru wrote:
    Quote:

    Is there a guide, tutorial ...to make these things "easy" to the end user MorphOS ?
    Someone of the MorphOS team can write a simple guide to use YABOOT for exemple with MorphOS, Linux, OSX ? I could be very useful for Mac Mini, EMac, PowerMac, and later Powerbook and Ibook I think.

    Every time I've done it I've manually edited the yaboot OF boot script. Perhaps there is an easier way to do it, but if there is I'm not aware of it.

    [ Edited by Piru on 2010/7/22 14:42 ]


    Hi Piru,
    Can you post here your edited "yaboot OF boot script" ?
    It can be useful to understand path, options etc... about the bootstrap.
    ((I have never used it (yaboot) I have made all at the moment with only Boot Creator for Pegasos I/II))
  • »22.07.10 - 10:58
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    Piru
    Posts: 587 from 2003/2/24
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    Can you post here your edited "yaboot OF boot script" ?

    No. It's specific to each installation and it wouldn't be of any use really.

    What I do is basically see how it handles to two existing entries (Mac OS X 'x' and Linux 'l') and then modify it to include a third option (MorphOS). I assign it to 'm' -key.

    Editing the yaboot script is really delicate stuff. If you make a mistake you'll end up with a system that is only able to boot from the OF command prompt. I wouldn't recommend trying this unless if you're familiar with the OF and booting the system from the OF prompt, etc.

    I'm really hoping that someone would point out some easy way to generate the script with some easily configurable options.
  • »22.07.10 - 11:06
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Divinity
    Posts: 498 from 2009/9/8
    Hi Piru,
    thanks for the informations, this is the my idea for the PowerMac FW800 :

    -1) hd PATA 250gb connected in CS mode to ATA100 inside the PowerMac, where installed OSX 10.5.8, OSX 10.4.11, OSX 10.3.9, OSX 10.2.8.

    -2) hd PATA 80gb or bigger connected in CS mode to ATA100 inside the PowerMac, where installed MorphOS 2.6.

    -3) hd PATA 80gb or bigger connected in CS mode to ATA66 inside the PowerMac, where installed Linux Debian.

    -4) hd external firewire 400 or 800 where installed OSX 10.5.8 (shared, used with other PowerMac G4 and G5 sometimes)

    No problem with OSX 10.5.8 in hd external firewire 400 or 800, when I need sometime, i press "ALT" key and select bootstrap form it, ok.

    For other ((1), 2), 3)) I'll need help to configure YABOOT.

    In these situations I'll have YABOOT in hd where installed Linux Debian, right ? or better to have in other hd ?

    Do you think I' ll have problem to select the four OSX in hd PATA 250gb in which all OSX versions are installed ?

    Yes, I think also could be very very useful to find an easy way to generetate the script or a very good guide/tutorial to understand exactly as install/configure it

    thanks
    rehards

    [ Edited by Divinity on 2010/7/22 14:24 ]

    [ Edited by Divinity on 2010/7/22 14:26 ]
  • »22.07.10 - 12:23
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12163 from 2003/5/22
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    > why is OS X.5 seeing the drive as a problem and wants me to fix it?

    I can't answer this question unfortunately but I can tell you that it seems to be "normal" behaviour for whatever reason:

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7091&forum=11#73055
  • »22.07.10 - 14:38
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    amigadave
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > why is OS X.5 seeing the drive as a problem and wants me to fix it?

    I can't answer this question unfortunately but I can tell you that it seems to be "normal" behaviour for whatever reason:

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7091&forum=11#73055


    Could be because it doesn't recognize your MorphOS, SFS file system and is asking you if you want it re-formatted to fix it.

    Edit: Sorry, you are writing about the HFS formatted Boot partition, not the SFS MorphOS partition.

    [ Edited by amigadave on 2010/8/2 21:00 ]
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  • »03.08.10 - 02:56
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3108 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    @macsociety

    There's a known problem with the default Boot partition size which causes the 'broken partition' problem in OSX. To fix it you've got to:

    a) Run Mounter and mount the Boot: HFS partition
    b) Copy all files somewhere, could be RAM:
    c) Unmount the partition
    d) Run HDConfig and make the partition *exactly* 1MB smaller
    e) Mount it again
    f) Format the partition from the Ambient menu, make sure to name it Boot
    g) Copy all files back to it
    h) Open a new shell and bless the partition with
    Code:
    hfssetmacboot boot:bootinfo.txt


    If you've read the dualboot.pdf it should be fairly easy to do all these actions since it mentions the applications needed to do this.
  • »03.08.10 - 07:05
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