Scandal/scanning question
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    amyren
    Posts: 219 from 2010/5/15
    From: Norway
    I have a multifunction printer, HP PSC 950.
    The printer is connected as usbparallel.device unit 0.

    I tried to set up scandal to use this device, but if I try to interact with the scanner, Scandal freezes.
    There was a HP driver for betascan on aminet, so I have been trying this driver. I know my printer/scanner is not on the list of supported scanners for this driver, but it seems like the closest thing available, so I wanted to try it.

    Since it freeze, I obviously is doing something wrong - or the driver is incompatible.
    I was just wondering if this is a missing driver problem, or if I am doing something wrong in the setup.
    Will the scanner also have the same usbparallel.device unit 0 as the printer, or must I try with a different device?
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    Tronman
    Posts: 209 from 2003/3/3
    From: Preston, Wa
    Does the printer part of it work? If you can print things then you know the connections are good. If you have access to a Wintel box or even a mac, how does the unit enumerate in the USB device tree?

    Does it all show up as one big device, or does it show up as several devices plugged into the same hub? I ask out of curiosity because these things are getting cheaper all the time and I'd like to try one too.
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    amyren
    Posts: 219 from 2010/5/15
    From: Norway
    The printer works, at least for printing via GSGUI. (I have made another post about setting up the printer)
    It looks like one device in the USB device list. On the Mac side (I have a Mac Mini, dual boot with OSX/MorphOS2.5) it is also listed as one device on the USB bus.

    On MorphOS, Poseidon detects the printer first at hub.class, then further down at printer.class, then welcoming it as usbparallel.device unit 0.
    If I select information from the devices list, I can read that its have adress 3 and is connected to Port2 at PCI Root Hub Unit 1.
    At the bottom of the information window it lists three interfaces:
    Num - Name - Class - Sub - Proto - EPs - Binding
    0/1 - Printer interface (0) - 7 (Printer (Bidirectional)) - 1 - 2 - 2 - printer.class
    0/2 - Printer interface (0) - 7 (Printer (Unidirectional)) - 1 - 1 - 1- None
    0/0 - Printer interface (0) - 7 (Printer (IEEE1284.4)) - 1 - 3 - 3 - None

    What worries me a bit when it comes to the scanner part, is the use of usbparallel.device. This sounds like a device that is specially designed for printer usage, made to be some sort of a bridge to accept parallel type communication and convert them to USB communication.
    Will that device be able to support scanning at all?

    Another issue I have not yet dared to test, is to force a binding to rawwrap.class to one of the interfaces. I'm not sure though which one it should be binded to. I would guess that a scanner would need bidirectional communication, but that one is already binded to printer.class.
    Also there pops up a warning message when trying to force a binding, saying that you might brake stuff if you do this. I doubt that this really could do any physical damage to my Mac Mini or my printer, but I would feel more safe if any with the right knowledge could advice me on this one first.
  • »14.06.10 - 08:49
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    zukow
    Posts: 645 from 2005/2/9
    From: Poland
    @amyren

    no sane/betascan driver - no scanning

    http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html
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    amyren
    Posts: 219 from 2010/5/15
    From: Norway
    my printer/scanner is listed on the sane pages with status Good. But sadly there is no betascan driver for it..
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    amyren
    Posts: 219 from 2010/5/15
    From: Norway
    must correct myself here, regarding the SANE status of my scanner. I found it on the SANE project pages from their search engine, and asumed that it had a working SANE driver, because it was listed with status 'Good'.
    I could not find it at the link providied by zukow.
    From what I can read, it means that the status of the scanner is Good, related to that it works Goon linux, but with another driver. There is a link to hpaio, which seem to be follwed by HPLIP.
    Which probably means there will be no driver available for betascan...

    Does anyone know if there Is there any other Mulitfunction (All-In-One) printer out there which have supported drivers for MorphOS for both printing and scanner software, and is available to buy in the shops today?
  • »15.06.10 - 07:24
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    amyren
    Posts: 219 from 2010/5/15
    From: Norway
    From what I have seen of available Scanner drivers, it looks like the Epson driver for Stylus Scan 2500 is the most likely scanner/printer combo that might work.
    There are several printer drivers for Epson Stylus serier, so with luck one of them will work with the printer side.
    They are not easy to find secondhand, but I noticed one on ebay. Unfortunately the seller only ships to US.
    But anyway, before buying a new printer, it would be nice to know whether it will work or not.

    I asume that the reference to stylus scan 2500 in the epsonusb_morphos.readme the same as the all-in one printer with the same name listed on the Espson America website.
    Are there anyone that have tested this printer on MorphOS and got it working with any of the available drivers?

    Then, if the printer side will work, and the scanner as well, how to make them work together in poseidon?
    I did test my psc 950, and when I tried to force a binding for the psc950 device to the rawwrap.class, then the printer.class binding got removed. So I wonder if poseidon can handle both on the same time for a device.
  • »16.06.10 - 09:14
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    zukow
    Posts: 645 from 2005/2/9
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    It should work but i din't test it. I have epson 1640U and it works fast and reliable (only via USB, scsi is turned off but i near future i'll add scsi support for this driver). I have also more up-to-date driver which supports more epson scanners but it is slower than this from aminet.


    scandal works with gt68xx scanners:
    http://www.meier-geinitz.de/sane/gt68xx-backend/

    they are really cheap (about 3$ here in Poland :)) but most of the has bad scanning quality.
  • »16.06.10 - 09:46
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