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That is the smart thing to do if you want to get a decent price on your used Efika. I always end up holding on to my old computer gear too long and then it is not worth selling, so I just keep it. I should sell my Efika too, as I have not been using it and I have the G4 PPC MacMini that I will be using as my MorphOS machine as soon as it is released for it.

In fact, there is a chance that the G4 MacMini will get a new large hdd and become a dual booting main use desktop for me and replace my Dell quad core extreme PC. It will sync to my MacBook and I can't do that with the Dell (although I did try to run OSX on the Dell, but it would not work). That would also be a big savings in electricity over the 600 watt PSU in the Dell XPS. Lots of advantages and fewer disadvantages growing every day that MorphOS and MacOSX improve.

GO MorphOS Team!!!

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No it wasn't. Some of us (guess I'm not the only one) were hopping and interested in a QBox-based OS (as was originally announced, and written). And this kinda means that ABox was to be finished, and of high quality, and that it took more time than expected. It doesn't cleary states what was planning next and the change of focus on ABox. So some of us may still had some hopes for something based on the QBox.

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Now it is clear. End of discussion.

[ Edited by Leo on 2009/3/16 12:12 ]

amigadave:

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Thats the reason I sold the EFIKA because I know MOS Devel would have some great plans down the road so I figured I'd bail on the EFIKA before I lose too much. It would just sit there next to a Mini w/MorphOS had I kept it.

oh well, my other hobby is guns, so that keeps me plenty busy.

-Alex

Hooligan

Yet, you lock the thread I started about Laire posting at some point in his life... hmm go figure..

@Magnetic

You asked moderators a question, I don't know how I could be more direct saying there won't be such poll. Sorry my answer wasn't what you expected.

The thread in question can be found here, in case the public wants to have it back open I am more than willing to admit my mistake and open it.

hooligan
I've always liked you its not an attack but I did think it lame that you locked the thread. The poll would have been fun btw....

I dont think its wrong to ask why the lead dev for morphos never posts on this site....

I am a bit unwilling to have a poll about certain individual without his/hers permission. I admit it might not be such a big deal but somehow it just doesn't feel right. If it was about a group of people I wouldn't have problem with it. Anyhoo, we're way off topic

Personally, I completely support Hooligan's decision and would have done the same. It was the right call. In any case, discussions about moderation policies should take place in this forum instead.

@magnetic

He posted several times here during the past years... but not using his nick :)

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it was announced here that the next morphos update would support Macmini. I don't see the point in calling "3.0" a version that runs on macmini, and just because it does. I hope they will stick to 2.3, 2.4 etc unless they release a MAJOR update for ALL platforms.

@Leo
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For me, the QBox represents technical advancement and the ABox is a dead end. It is not at all clear to me why the QBox was abandoned. Maybe it was just too great a programming challenge in the end. So be it.

I don't know about you but after the response I've gotten I'm even MORE curious what is going with MorphOS and the tens of thousands of euros being taken in. I emailed the MorphOS Team using the public email address asking where money is going and who exactly owns this MorphOS product. Unsurprisingly, I have received no answer to date.

It's just a hobby is the excuse I'm getting for not being open about anything going on within the secretative MorphOS Team. When I try to contact the team via official channels I get the wall of silence. I've been reading MorphZone for years now and I know I'm not the only one to get the wall of silence. I'm surprised the users just tolerate it as 'normal' and hand over the their hard earned money. And that is no trivial amount of money.

Piru stated he is not even taking any money so I'm left wondering how many other developers are not taking any money? Where is the money going? Who is controlling the money? Who is spending it? What are they spending the money on? Why is all this being kept secret from the users and guys like me that would like to know?

Yes, the QBox question may have been answered but my goodness is there a lot of secret stuff going on with quite a lot of money and nobody seems to want to talk about it. This is the kind of behaviour that l'd expect from a profit taking corporation in the USA. Is the MorphOS Team even incorporated? It looks like all the mail goes to some guy's house. Beats me and nobody is talking.

That is all really creepy behaviour from a supposed group of hobbiests in it for just the fun don't you think?

@ssolie

Perhaps you didn't notice, but several MorphOS Team members have already replied to you in this very thread.

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Again, we have no obligation to disclose such information. This is not a donationware project where you could expect answers to similar questions.

[ Edited by jacadcaps on 2009/3/17 23:23 ]

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Grab yourself a system and get to coding?


Ask yourself, "Who Am I?". You're just a person on the internet trolling on a internet forum. Do you have a huge stake in MorphOS and by that I mean, have you spent "tens of thousands of euros" towards said project to where it entitles you to know where money is or isnt being spent?

Dont include me in "users and guys like me that would like to know" because I dont give a shit what they spend their money on. Alot of us users are, whats that word, PATIENT. Have you emailed Steve Ballmer at Microsoft and asked him where they're spending their money? How about Steve Jobs? Probably because they'd tell you to "piss off" (replace the 'piss' word with something harsher..lol).

Whats creepy is a troll like yourself asking pointless questions. Why dont you ask Hype-irion where their money is going and why they are so secretive. Please, just go bother the OS4 forum, they need more trolls like you.

-Alex

[ Edited by TheMagicM on 2009/3/17 18:11 ]

sorry cant resist.

ssolie, why do you think that the team's got to give away informations about their money? if someone in a ppublic forum ask you to inform everybody of your spenings will you do that?
its none of your or any of us' buisness what the morphos-team do with their money from 2.x licences.
if they spend it on whoes, exotic drugs and trips so be it. they've delivered morphos the best amigaish system up-to-date, still continuing developing it (i bet you have absolutely no idea how much they work on it and how often the new betas are coming) - they desevres every eurocent for it. but if all of the money goes to one single person and he travels the world around from it then it still none of your buisness.

have you actually asked these questions to hyperion/ben e. and got proper answers to them? if not then why not?

we as registered users could expect some sort of support for existing morphos releases - at maximum, no more. and we got much more than "some sort of support" for our money. heck even free 1.4.x users got offical support, still.

i bet you wont stop after reading this and will take it apart in an angry answer and will shouting and crying more nonsense. your choice but if you do, be happy while doin it. be that your best fun ever:)

[ Edited by sadddam on 2009/3/18 1:14 ]

> He posted several times here during the past years... but not using
> his nick :)

...and using that one instead. I didn't expect any MorphZone member to be unaware of this. Who do these people think the user "MorphOS_Team" posting news items and even taking part in the forums was/is? :-)

> it was announced here that the next morphos update would support
> Macmini.

AFAIR it was just announced that *some* future MorphOS update will support MacMini. And as we know from the ML (and other sources) for months, there will probably be a MorphOS update before the one with added MacMini support.

> I don't see the point in calling "3.0" a version that runs on
> macmini, and just because it does. I hope they will stick to 2.3,
> 2.4 etc unless they release a MAJOR update for ALL platforms.

I second that. And I even go a step further in not seeing the point in raising the version number (as in version OR revision) at all just because of the addition of support for a new hardware platform, if that's the only enhancement that is.

@sadddam
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After the gang beating on #morphos I must say I'm not impressed with some of the MorphOS Development Team's professionalism.

No, it is not any of my business what the money is being spent on. But I can ask. And you know what? You can choose to answer that it is none of my business in a polite manner and move on. Or you can behave like a bunch of children. Or you can ignore my question, hold your ears tight and suck your thumb. Many reactions are possible.

Adults have complete control over how they react to stimulus. In this case, the so-called big bad red troll is the stimulus. Now look how some have chosen to react to my abrassive behaviour? Are the reactions stern but polite as you would expect from any adult in control of themselves? Remember, it is the behaviour I'm talking about here. A person's behaviour speaks much louder than the words themselves which is why behavioural job interviews are so popular.

Let's make this painfully easy then.

What legal entity is accepting these thousands of euros and submitting the VAT to the proper government authority?

I have already looked on the MorphOS web site, I have emailed them and I have asked in the #morphos IRC channel. It looks like Mark Olsen may be taking the money since his address is the only one listed on the MorphOS web site.

> What legal entity is accepting these thousands of euros [...]?

This question has already been answered exactly one month ago on page 2 of this very thread.

> I have asked in the #morphos IRC channel.

And there you got the answer "ralph schmidt software entwicklung or so".

> It looks like Mark Olsen may be taking the money

He's not, and you were already told so in IRC as proven by your own log.

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I have not even bothered reading that, I'm sure it is just you beeing a Bhole as usual,
and as such you are being treated.

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Or you can behave like a Bhole.

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Blabla.. jibberish. Stop hiding behind some made up camps, the wars ended some time ago now,
just you here to try give it new fire, for whatever reason. Red/blue/black/yellow.. it's all good,
just don't be a complete Bhole.

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And always with the condescending remarks.. no wonder you don't get the silk gloves back.

The question in the original post has been answered multiple times by now. The discussion has gone completely off topic. Therefore, this topic is *locked*.

Any new provocations shall be posted and debated in an entirely new forum thread.