Help - Totally Baffled - Linux install
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    niteman1969
    Posts: 35 from 2004/10/20
    From: London UK
    Sorry its me again.....

    A total linux newbie I bought the v2 image
    installer DVD and so far havent been able to
    get even one version of linux up and running.


    The debian Sarge that i got with my PEGII
    dies 2/3 of the way thru installing..

    Yep i did follow the quickstart guide, but
    i think it needs updating cos it only talks about
    pegasos 1 and debian woody not Pegasos II
    and debian sarge...

    I downloaded YDL 4 and that copies the image
    of ydl to hd and just hangs doing nothing

    I also downloaded the gentoo live cd
    which mistakenly i thought was going to
    boot into a graphical installer - but is all text and as a linux complete newb i cant face it.

    Is there any EASY install of linux which loads
    a bootloader on the same partition as the one that holds boot.img for MOS????

    Can anyone help me out ???

    I am just dying with these failed linux installs.

    Ive just downloaded Mandrake Linux 10.1 ppc
    but just worked out there is no bootloader for
    it.

    And whats with the image installer guys
    documentation .... it doesnt tie up with
    stuff on the dvd..

    All In all Linux PPC seems like a Black Art..


    If I had enough of it I would be tearing my hair out.......

    Regards

    Niteman1969
    Pegasos II / G4 1Ghz / 512mb PC3200 Ram / Radeon 7000 64mb Agp/ 160gb SeagateHD / Toshiba 1512 Dvd Rom / Aria Case

    MorphOS 1.4.2 / Debian Sarge Linux Soon
    got 14 cd iso files to download = 9gb ........lol
  • »01.11.04 - 02:21
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    nels664868
    Posts: 117 from 2003/12/28
    From: Fort Myers, Fl...
    Hi Niteman1969
    The easyest Linux to install on a Pegasos II is Debian netinstall.
    If you have a broadband connection, download this installer.
    http://people.debian.org/~luther/debian-installer/daily-powerpc-built/daily/powerpc/netboot/vmlinuz-chrp.initrd
    Put vmlinuz-chrp-initrd in your boot partition.
    And type in OF
    boot hd:0 vmlinuz-chrp-initrd

    nels
    Ask Dr. Stupid,
    Dear Dr. Stupid,
    Why do we have to go to school?
    That's a very good question. It's becuse your parents are
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  • »01.11.04 - 03:21
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 199 from 2004/2/9
    Niteman, this may help you :)

    http://www.ppczone.org/modules/xoopsfaq/index.php?cat_id=1#1
  • »01.11.04 - 10:25
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    liquidbit
    Posts: 407 from 2003/10/12
    niteman1969...how can you managed to do that? :-)
    I found YDL the easiest way to install Linux from CD.
    And personally Debian is the best and easiest OS to install by Network....
    ..there will be only one left.
  • »01.11.04 - 14:53
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  • Cocoon
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    Elric
    Posts: 52 from 2003/4/3
    From: Bretagne Lorient
    @nels664868: vmlinuz-chrp.initrd seems to be buggy: it "runs" in the
    sense that the prompt made its anim (-/|\-...) but after, - and
    nothing happens... :(

    No Debian netinstall for now! :((
  • »01.11.04 - 17:59
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    nels664868
    Posts: 117 from 2003/12/28
    From: Fort Myers, Fl...
    @ Elric : The installer that I pointed to was a daily build.
    The last that I used was from Oct 3 2004 and that one worked fine.

    nels

    PS the Linux site for Pegasos is 'www.ppczone.org'.
    Ask Dr. Stupid,
    Dear Dr. Stupid,
    Why do we have to go to school?
    That's a very good question. It's becuse your parents are
    ALIENS!!! When your at school they shed there human skins and
    breathe drier lint! hahahaha!
  • »01.11.04 - 22:43
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    Taerwin
    Posts: 26 from 2004/8/2
    From: Toulouse, France
    Hello,

    I tried to install the YDL distrib I fetched on Terrasoftsolutions web site and it did not work :-)))

    So I booted the Pegasos on the CD-rom by typing the following command line (as explained in the YDL install guide found with the ISO image on terrasoftsolutions web site):

    boot /pci/ide/cdrom@1,0 ydl-install root=/dev/ram0 ramdisk=22000 rw

    The CD-Rom is activated, some text is displayed - RAM addresses I guess, along with the mention 'CD-ROM' and 'LINUX'.

    And then it hangs up (no feedback on keyboard entries and the CD-ROM is released)...

    The guide reads 'The image will be loaded off the CD into memory, and boot into the installer'. Does it take a long time to do that? (maybe I reset too quickly thoug hI waited for about one minute I guess - I decided to reset because the CD-ROM wasn't in activity anymore).

    Here is my config:

    Pegasos II G4 - 512 Mbytes RAM - Voodoo 3

    Is there somebody who succeeded in installing YDL on a similar config? (Peg II +G4+512 Mbytes RAM)

    Other question:

    YDL requires three partitions:

    - Boot partition
    - Swap partition
    - YDL partition

    I have prepared two partitions for linux but what about the boot partition? Later in the guide they tak about a SmartOF boot menu (p. 12) created during the installation. In case there was a previous installation, the SmartOF boot menu is updated.

    I have MorphOS 1.4.2 already installed. Do I have to prepare a third partition for YDL installation or will it add a new entry to the current boot partition?

    [ Edited by Taerwin on 2004/11/2 16:14 ]
    PegasosII G4 - 512 Mb - Voodoo 3
    Amiga 1200/603e - 256 Mb - BVision
  • »02.11.04 - 14:07
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bbrv
    Posts: 750 from 2003/2/14
    From: Earth
    Taerwin ===>>>> www.ppczone.org

    Whole section on YDL install...:-)

    R&B
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    Taerwin
    Posts: 26 from 2004/8/2
    From: Toulouse, France
    @ bbrv

    Could not find the YDL tutorial on ppczone.org...Aren't you refering to the one on amipeglin.de.vu? It is targeted at Pegasos I and I want to install the YDL on my Pegasos II...
    PegasosII G4 - 512 Mb - Voodoo 3
    Amiga 1200/603e - 256 Mb - BVision
  • »02.11.04 - 14:24
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  • Cocoon
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    Elric
    Posts: 52 from 2003/4/3
    From: Bretagne Lorient
    @Taerwin: The Boot partition is of course the one you already have for
    Morphos... :)

    On my side, waiting for Computer City to permise my download of the
    Image_InstallerV2's images that should be on the DVD i bought since
    three weeks, I attempt to download for now and install probably
    tomorrow, the sarge-pegasos1-netinst-2004.10.25.iso (?thanks
    nels664868 for the piece of link! ;) ?)...

    Veni, vidi, ....???!

    Little update for the compete link:
    http://people.debian.org/~luther/pegasos/


    [ Edited by Elric on 2004/11/2 21:13 ]
  • »02.11.04 - 19:04
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    niteman1969
    Posts: 35 from 2004/10/20
    From: London UK
    Thanks for all your help but ultimatley I am downloading the latest version of debian sarge
    all 14 cd's worth (all the packages you could ever need)

    The link is here ........

    http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/cd-images/debian-weekly/powerpc/


    The Reason for this is the netinstall is broken and will not install any packages for me...

    but at least the netinstaller left me with
    a working linux version - but without kde or gnome - is useless for me.

    The advantage is that I will have a full distro
    on these cd's to install any package that i like.

    Will let you know in a couple of days how this
    went......

    I am sure its got the vmlinuz-chrp.initrd on the 1st disc so all i have to do is download, burn
    and install....

    BTW the debian disk i got with my brand new
    Pegasos II seems like a very old version
    compared to the netinstall version.

    The CD set I am downloading is for the 25/10
    so much newer.

    I am confident this will give me the install I want.


    Regards

    Niteman1969

    [ Edited by niteman1969 on 2004/11/3 8:32 ]
    Pegasos II / G4 1Ghz / 512mb PC3200 Ram / Radeon 7000 64mb Agp/ 160gb SeagateHD / Toshiba 1512 Dvd Rom / Aria Case

    MorphOS 1.4.2 / Debian Sarge Linux Soon
    got 14 cd iso files to download = 9gb ........lol
  • »03.11.04 - 04:19
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  • Caterpillar
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    Taerwin
    Posts: 26 from 2004/8/2
    From: Toulouse, France
    @ Elric: thank you; wasn't sure about this

    I gave it another try yesterday evening with the same result: computer loads from CD-ROM a bit, outputs some text and then hangs up...

    I noted down the text output but forgot the paper at home :-( Anyway I remember it is mentionned that about 49000 bytes of heap are consumed and that there are about 40000 bytes available. What does it mean? Could it be an indication of the problem?

    The last line reads like 'start at 0x00800000' -but obviously nothing starts :-(

    An other possibility: should I change the DVD-ROM position in the IDE chain?
    PegasosII G4 - 512 Mb - Voodoo 3
    Amiga 1200/603e - 256 Mb - BVision
  • »03.11.04 - 08:36
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  • Cocoon
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    Elric
    Posts: 52 from 2003/4/3
    From: Bretagne Lorient
    Hi!
    It seems the one I tryed, (sarge-pegasos1-netinst-2004.10.25.iso)
    won't works: the installation seems to be ok, but at the end, the
    installer stops with a blue empty screen, when it had (in theory), to
    reboot...
    Rebooting finaly by hand after a while, trying to boot at the OF
    prompt with the righ command does nothing...

    Then I restart under Morphos goes in the boot partition and saw...:
    nothing new!!!! Trying to copy directly a boot flie (as vmlinux) does
    nothing again.... :(((

    Exept if someone had a good idea on that, I'm begining to download the
    sarge-powerpc-1.iso again 5**mo..and a day+night. :{{{

    Ciao!
  • »03.11.04 - 18:29
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    niteman1969
    Posts: 35 from 2004/10/20
    From: London UK
    Yep ... Problems problems ........

    This is why I have decided to Download the 14cd set because although the netinstall
    actually worked for me the apt could not
    download additional packages.

    This way I will get a complete distro that will
    Include many more packages than I probably
    need, but at least I can get what I want....

    The only problem is that on my 512k adsl connection 9gb worth of files is gonna take
    a long time to download......

    Regards

    Niteman1969
    Pegasos II / G4 1Ghz / 512mb PC3200 Ram / Radeon 7000 64mb Agp/ 160gb SeagateHD / Toshiba 1512 Dvd Rom / Aria Case

    MorphOS 1.4.2 / Debian Sarge Linux Soon
    got 14 cd iso files to download = 9gb ........lol
  • »03.11.04 - 19:12
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    pOS
    Posts: 217 from 2003/11/14
    From: Bavaria
    Why don't you buy a recent (weekly updated)Debian Distribution from a dealer ? I got mine on 2 DVDs for just 18 EUR (incl.postage).
  • »04.11.04 - 07:34
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