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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    bash64
    Posts: 974 from 2010/10/28
    From: USA
    is it just me or is wayfarer not usuable anymore.
    I remember getting a powerbook G4 and my first time running mos.
    The OWB browser ran every web page i normally used on my PC with no issues at all.
    I now use an isight 2.1ghz G5.
    Cant hardly load anything.
    I barely got youtube to load one video
    and you need massive amounts of patience to even do that

    If i have the wrong preferences could someone share their working prefs with me?
    I have maxed out all caches in the OS and browser
    filesystem, disk, browser

    I can run OWB and its quite fast but of course its outdated and gets lots of errors
    i tried netsurf but it wont load anything

    my email is rll@twc.com if you have a working prefs for wayfarer.
    I am licensed now
    I updated wayfarer. i think its 11.1 now.
    it self updated
    Mac G5 ISight 21" 2.5 gb of ram 233gb hd matshita dvd-r uj-846
    Powerbook G4 1.67ghz 2GB, ATI 9700M Pro 128mb
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    bash64
    Posts: 974 from 2010/10/28
    From: USA
    im on os 3.19 now
    Mac G5 ISight 21" 2.5 gb of ram 233gb hd matshita dvd-r uj-846
    Powerbook G4 1.67ghz 2GB, ATI 9700M Pro 128mb
    1TB hd, DL-DVD Burner, Netgear pcmcia wireless card.
    ImageFX 4.5, PageStream 3.3, PhotoGenics 5.0
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    cip060
    Posts: 149 from 2010/7/30
    So to use YouTube, you use a PC or a cell phone.
    Morphos and a Mac aren't powerful enough to watch YouTube.
    We have to accept it.
    OWB is still usable on the major Amiga and e- sites.
    That's why OWB is still used with such satisfaction.
    For the rest, Wayfarer works great.
    You have to be aware of what you can do with Morphos. For the rest, if you want convenience, you have to use a PC or a cell phone.
    I have the same Mac as you, an iMac G5 Isight, and it's a wonderful machine, dual-booting with Sorbet Leopard.
  • »29.03.26 - 06:00
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    bash64
    Posts: 974 from 2010/10/28
    From: USA
    thx. right next to my mac is a laptop with linux and a nvidia 5080
    so im good
    Mac G5 ISight 21" 2.5 gb of ram 233gb hd matshita dvd-r uj-846
    Powerbook G4 1.67ghz 2GB, ATI 9700M Pro 128mb
    1TB hd, DL-DVD Burner, Netgear pcmcia wireless card.
    ImageFX 4.5, PageStream 3.3, PhotoGenics 5.0
  • »29.03.26 - 09:32
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    bash64
    Posts: 974 from 2010/10/28
    From: USA
    is there a website that will generate a web page for a slow computer. and just hand back a picture or something usuable
    offload the work to the serer side?
    Mac G5 ISight 21" 2.5 gb of ram 233gb hd matshita dvd-r uj-846
    Powerbook G4 1.67ghz 2GB, ATI 9700M Pro 128mb
    1TB hd, DL-DVD Burner, Netgear pcmcia wireless card.
    ImageFX 4.5, PageStream 3.3, PhotoGenics 5.0
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 715 from 2004/11/3
    From: near myself
    https://blog.alb42.de/programs/amifox/

    Amifox works on MorphOS, too.

    https://blog.alb42.de/programs/amitube/

    My prefered solution to watch Youtube Videos on MorphOS.
  • »29.03.26 - 16:47
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    matt3
    Posts: 782 from 2004/2/10
    At the end of the day Wayfarer is very usable for a lot of things, much more than anything else I have tried on MorphOS for web browsing, dare I say and any other Amigaish system..

    I use it daily work and fun and love it. Sure, you will run into a absolute wall with some website, as there is only so much a single processor and core can deliver, but given what it does and how well it is updated to the latest webkits. I'm frankly amazed, Jacek isn't a mortal programmer :)

    Tips for Wayfarer to increase performance and make a noticeable difference (in my testing and on my system):
    1. Turn on disk cache in system.
    2. Turn on balanced for wayfarer in settings.
    3. Use a proxy.
    4. Make sure wayfarer is on the fastest device possible, even it is faster than the system can utilize.
    5. Increase buffers for the Drive.

    On my PowerMac 11,2 with SSD's, doing all 5 of those items made a very noticeable improvement with using wayfarer. I have no idea which ones make more of a difference, but after I did the above it made it much more usable.. ymmv...


    [ Edited by matt3 30.03.2026 - 09:52 ]
  • »29.03.26 - 22:17
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3286 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Youtube videos should just work with default settings. I suggest you start from a clean install of Wayfarer if you're running into issues and reduce the video quality to 720/480p. Using Auto quality is the source of most issues since youtube might randomly try to switch to 1080p.
  • »30.03.26 - 10:23
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2085 from 2003/6/4
    Quote:

    bash64 schrieb:
    is it just me or is wayfarer not usuable anymore.





    Wayfarer is pretty impressive, it's the hardware that is slow. Look, I recently moved to SailfishOS for my mobile phone. I was pretty surprised that their inbuild browser is way beyond Wayfarer. Things were just not working. And Sailfish is YAL
    And here, on this non-*nix system, we got a browser that works great which is really not a given.
    Unfortunately the hardware is weak. And yes, Odyssey was way faster, I also miss the speed. But I appreciate very, very much that we have such a powerful browser- but you're better off, if not in a hurry ;-)

    PS: on Sailfish I am now using Vivald via the Android wrapper. Vivaldi is pretty neat.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1381 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Does cloudfare-verification work anywhere?
    Example: https://www.forum64.de/index.php?board/248-sonstige-homecomputer/
    Stuck always in an endless loop......
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1381 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Aha! Thank you!
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
  • »20.05.26 - 05:37
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Brumiga
    Posts: 274 from 2004/4/3
    From: France
    I have tried amifox but it does not respond. I have tried to modify the tooltypes and the setting but steel nothing. Can someone indicate how to do to obtain amifox working with MorphOS ?

    Brumiga
  • »20.05.26 - 11:37
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Brumiga
    Posts: 274 from 2004/4/3
    From: France
    I have tried amifox but it does not respond. I have tried to modify the tooltypes and the setting but still nothing. Can someone indicate how to do to obtain amifox working with MorphOS ?

    Brumiga
  • »20.05.26 - 11:38
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3286 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    Quote:

    Zylesea wrote:
    And yes, Odyssey was way faster, I also miss the speed


    Nope. It's the websites that were simpler/lighter 10+ years ago.
  • »21.05.26 - 10:59
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 8 from 2026/3/24
    Quote:

    matt3 wrote:
    At the end of the day Wayfarer is very usable for a lot of things, much more than anything else I have tried on MorphOS for web browsing, dare I say and any other Amigaish system..

    I use it daily work and fun and love it. Sure, you will run into a absolute wall with some website, as there is only so much a single processor and core can deliver, but given what it does and how well it is updated to the latest webkits. I'm frankly amazed, Jacek isn't a mortal programmer :)

    Tips for Wayfarer to increase performance and make a noticeable difference (in my testing and on my system):
    1. Turn on disk cache in system.
    2. Turn on balanced for wayfarer in settings.
    3. Use a proxy.
    4. Make sure wayfarer is on the fastest device possible, even it is faster than the system can utilize.
    5. Increase buffers for the Drive.

    On my PowerMac 11,2 with SSD's, doing all 5 of those items made a very noticeable improvement with using wayfarer. I have no idea which ones make more of a difference, but after I did the above it made it much more usable.. ymmv...



    1. Done
    2. Done
    3. What proxy are you using?
    4. How do I make it the fastest device?
    5. How do I increase buffers?
  • »22.05.26 - 21:44
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    matt3
    Posts: 782 from 2004/2/10
    3. What proxy are you using? I set one up on my NAS and point to it...
    4. How do I make it the fastest device? I should have been more specific here. I have 2 SSD's in my PM, one is compatible and slower and one is faster. I bought the fastest SSD I could find and put that in as a second drive. I put wayfarer and iris and other needy software on it. Even if it is faster than the controller in the system itself it can still make a difference. For the least amount of frustration (and reboots :) ) it is best practice to put a compatible device in the powermacs. So I have a Nvidia/apple card, so the system boots perfectly and then have a non-apple 1950 Radeon. Same with the SSD, If you put in devices not recognized by the powermac, it will be almost random if it boots, I would guess the OF needs to hookup just right with timing for a successful boot. It will work 100% when it boots up with no issues, and I ran that way for a year or two but you just need to deal with reseting it until it does. Putting in the compatible as well makes the 11,2 boot perfectly every single time. This is for the powermac 11,2 only btw...
    5. How do I increase buffers? You could also go into HDConfig in system, select the partition and increase buffers changing the value and saving...

    It will also help to run on a fast system if you want to daily drive MorphOS and use it for productivity. I use my system for 8 hours a day for work almost exclusevily now and it is very fast, stable, and the software is very capable.

    The fastest system is still the 2.7GHz powermac AGP system, I went with a 2.5GHz PCIe single processor system. It is pretty close and faster for somethings. Wayfarer and playback of movies needs cpu power at the end of the day.


    Quote:

    n3m3 wrote:
    Quote:

    matt3 wrote:
    At the end of the day Wayfarer is very usable for a lot of things, much more than anything else I have tried on MorphOS for web browsing, dare I say and any other Amigaish system..

    I use it daily work and fun and love it. Sure, you will run into a absolute wall with some website, as there is only so much a single processor and core can deliver, but given what it does and how well it is updated to the latest webkits. I'm frankly amazed, Jacek isn't a mortal programmer :)

    Tips for Wayfarer to increase performance and make a noticeable difference (in my testing and on my system):
    1. Turn on disk cache in system.
    2. Turn on balanced for wayfarer in settings.
    3. Use a proxy.
    4. Make sure wayfarer is on the fastest device possible, even it is faster than the system can utilize.
    5. Increase buffers for the Drive.

    On my PowerMac 11,2 with SSD's, doing all 5 of those items made a very noticeable improvement with using wayfarer. I have no idea which ones make more of a difference, but after I did the above it made it much more usable.. ymmv...



    1. Done
    2. Done
    3. What proxy are you using?
    4. How do I make it the fastest device?
    5. How do I increase buffers?




    [ Edited by matt3 23.05.2026 - 07:02 ]
  • »23.05.26 - 11:42
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 8 from 2026/3/24
    Thanks for being more specific....

    Okay, well based off this outside of proxy everything is done.
  • »23.05.26 - 13:28
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 715 from 2004/11/3
    From: near myself
    Disabling Javascript helps with some sites.
  • »23.05.26 - 19:03
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 8 from 2026/3/24
    Thanks....
  • »23.05.26 - 21:56
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