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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    discreetfx
    Posts: 396 from 2003/7/26
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    Is it just me or does this site seem like a graveyard lately with not much information? I hope it’s just me but after a long delay of an architecture change and or maybe cancellation it seems like the MorphOs community has run out of steam. Even the Vampire V4 community is a lot more lively and it’s basically a supped up 68k market with better graphics and sound. This disappoints me because healthy competition in all Amiga camps increases interest and diversity in the platforms. I really hope I’m missing something here because I haven’t had much reason to fire up my MorphOS systems in sometime. This goes for the X5000 as well since OS4 seems to be in an even worst state.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 682 from 2004/11/3
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    What's wrong about people just using MorphOS?
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    ThorstenS
    Posts: 79 from 2014/1/20
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    analogkid schrieb:
    What's wrong about people just using MorphOS?

    I assume that @discreetfx is making another - important - point.

    At the moment it seems that apart from the annual updates of MorphOS, the constant further development of Wayfarer and various ports, nothing really groundbreaking is happening.

    We have been waiting in vain for years for an Office package or at least Final Writer. On other fronts - graphics, sound, video, games, etc. - things are no better.

    Then one would wish for much more active communication from the MorphOS developers, especially with regard to the question of whether they will remain on 32 bit PPC “forever and ever” or whether a change will take place.


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    Aktuell schaut es doch so aus, dass außer die alljährlichen Updates von MorphOS, die stetige Weiterentwicklung von Wayfarer und diverse Ports nicht wirklich etwas bahnbrechendes geschieht.

    Auf ein Officepaket oder wenigstens Final Writer wartet man seit Jahren vergebens. An anderen Fronten Grafik, Sound, Video, Spiele usw. sieht es auch nicht besser aus.

    Dann würde man sich eine deutlich aktivere Kommunikation der MorphOS-Entwickler wünschen, speziell was die Frage angeht ob man "für immer und ewig" auf 32 bit PPC verbleiben wird oder ein Wechsel erfolgen wird.
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    Posts: 2136 from 2003/2/24
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    analogkid wrote:
    What's wrong about people just using MorphOS?

    Yeah, I think MorphOS is the most mature Amiga-like OS there is, and unfortunately that shows up as more quiet forums, because there isn't that much to talk about unfinished features and issues generally :)

    And we filter the nonsense here pretty well. I have stopped reading aw.net and some other sites nowadays because there's just flood that's waste of time, but not much real content either.

    Of course MorphOS is also a smaller community than anything classic related, but you always get answers here if you have something to say or ask, and that's fine IMHO.
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2384 from 2003/2/24
    @jPV

    Sure other sites being full of nonsense, bullshit and endless drama is a major reason why mz seems so quiet.
    There is also an almost complete lack of hype which in contrast to what discreetfx wrote isn't anymore on Vampire but has mostly moved onto PiStorm and new overbuild 060 cards. Both will in time face the same reality check Vapmire had recently and MorphOS had years if not decades ago. That when it pivots to drama....


    @ThorstenS

    The team not spilling their beans on future plans is a key element that made MorphOS so enjoyable/relaxing over the past 20 years (pretty much no drama after the Thendic dust settled) but it is also frustrating at times.
    Some middle ground would be nice.

    As for "new" apps and games, that rarely up to the team and is both a matter of resources and suitable projects.
    Sure some office would be nice, but who would really use what could be done in a reasonable way vs who would port 100MB+ of sources to get non perfect copies of OpenOffice, GIMP or Gnumeric?
    Games are similar, very few commercial games have been truly opensourced in the past 10 years (often they still rely on some closed source engine). TeamFortress2 may be a recent exception but listed HW requirements could barely be met by current top end HW even if we could fully utilize it (read SMP and GFX using the full power of a late RadeonHD card).
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    ChrisC
    Posts: 22 from 2025/3/1
    I think the licence cost puts people off, not sure why. JPV is correct when it comes to maturity, it is also the most actively developed platform. I think most Amiga stuff is over priced but MorphOS is reasonably priced for what you get. I think the die hard Amiga fans consider OS4 to be more legit but it isn't, Hyperion are always in some kind of legal fight as well which seems to hamper development. I wish they had just allowed the use of old Macs instead of the custom hardware.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    OlafSch
    Posts: 190 from 2011/11/16
    @kronos

    I think truth is in the middle

    in my view there are three reasons why there is not much to see...

    1. the OS certainly works good und updates obviously create no new problems so as long you do nothing wrong it works
    2. There are not many new software except wayfarer and OS updates
    3. the most important reason in my view... not many real new morphos users. The current base knows the OS so there is nothing to ask

    That would be different if new users from outside would join. They certainly would have a lot of questions. And that would create forum activity
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    discreetfx
    Posts: 396 from 2003/7/26
    From: Chicago, IL
    Thanx for the nice answers guys. Less problems and drama are very good things.
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