Power Mac G4 faster than Power Mac G5
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    AMike
    Posts: 15 from 2013/10/4
    From: Austria
    Hello guy's. I've tried to made some benchmarks but I can't reach the console. Normally it's the key beside "1", but there's no reaction by pressing this button. Any ideas how I can get into the console? Many thanks in advance.

    PowerMac G5 2.7, Radeon 9800pro, MorphOS 3.3, last Crysalispack, Quake III Arena.
  • »04.10.13 - 08:05
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    AMike
    Posts: 15 from 2013/10/4
    From: Austria
    I found a solution by myself - I've changed the keylayout to "british". The benchmark results are:

    PowerMac G5 ATI Radeon 9800 pro 256M Mac special Edition


    Quake III Arena
    GL Driver: Default
    Gl Extensions: On
    Video Mode: 1024x768
    Color Depth: 32
    Fullscreen: on
    Lighting: Lightmap
    Geometric Detail: High
    Texture Detail: default (looks below middle)
    Texture Quality: 16
    Texture Filter: Bilinear

    timedemo 18
    demo four.dm_68

    1260 frames 38.4 sec. 32.8 fps

    PowerMac G5 ATI Radeon 9800 pro 256M Mac special Edition

    Quake III Arena
    GL Driver: Default
    Gl Extensions: On
    Video Mode: 1280x1024
    Color Depth: 32
    Fullscreen: on
    Lighting: Lightmap
    Geometric Detail: High
    Texture Detail: high
    Texture Quality: 32
    Texture Filter: Trilinear

    timedemo 18
    demo four.dm_68

    1260 frames 44.1 sec. 28.6 fps
  • »04.10.13 - 12:04
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12163 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > i just tested a Power Mac G4 against Power Mac G5 and in result the Power Mac G4 is faster.

    PowerBook G4 1.67 GHz vs. PowerMac G5 2.3 GHz running Photogenics, ImageFX and Lightwave on MorphOS 3.2:

    http://web.archive.org/web/20160820171104/amigamccc.org/journal/1310mark.htm

    4 tests with overall result of G5 3:1 G4.


    Edit: changed URL to Wayback Machine

    [ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 08.05.2023 - 13:59 ]
  • »05.10.13 - 10:34
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2057 from 2003/6/4
    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf schrieb:
    > i just tested a Power Mac G4 against Power Mac G5 and in result the Power Mac G4 is faster.

    PowerBook G4 1.67 GHz vs. PowerMac G5 2.3 GHz running Photogenics, ImageFX and Lightwave on MorphOS 3.2:

    http://www.amigamccc.org/journal/1310mark.htm

    4 tests with overall result of G5 3:1 G4.


    Thanks for sharing this article. Interesting read. Would be nice if that article had some benchmark values from a ppc native application included.
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12163 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > Would be nice if that article had some benchmark values from a ppc native
    > application included.

    Indeed. It might be that the PPC code created by Trance is not so favourable to PPC970. AFAIK, there haven't been any G5-specific optimizations made in Trance.
  • »05.10.13 - 22:40
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    AMike
    Posts: 15 from 2013/10/4
    From: Austria
    New Benchmark with MorphOS 3.4 - nice progress. ;) Thank you for the update - a big effort for the G5 user.

    PowerMac G5 ATI Radeon 9800 pro 256M Mac special Edition - MorphOS 3.4

    Quake III Arena
    GL Driver: Default
    Gl Extensions: On
    Video Mode: 1280x1024
    Color Depth: 32
    Fullscreen: on
    Lighting: Lightmap
    Geometric Detail: High
    Texture Detail: high
    Texture Quality: 32
    Texture Filter: Trilinear

    timedemo 18
    demo four.dm_68

    1260 frames 23 sec. 54.8 fps
    MorphOS 3.3
    1260 frames 44.1 sec. 28.6 fps
  • »15.12.13 - 21:08
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
    Posts: 809 from 2008/7/6
    From: Antwerp, Belgium
    so, will a flashed 9800XT now be a worthy replacement for the mac edition 9000 pro 128Mb in my G4 ?
    Proud member of the Belgian Amiga Club since 2003

  • »15.12.13 - 21:39
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    redrumloa
    Posts: 1424 from 2003/4/13
    redrumloa,

    MorphOS 3.4 with same setup Pmac G5 & Radeon 9650, Quake 3 still crashes. I'll try my 9800 later today.
  • »29.12.13 - 14:04
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Jambalah
    Posts: 820 from 2008/3/30
    From: Roma, Italy
    @Oepabakkes:
    I guess is really worthy.
    With 9800 XT 256MB and the same configuration used by Amike I have:
    1260 frames
    17.7 secs
    71.2 fps !!
    You can read previous results above.
    Great work BigFoot!!!



    [ Edited by Jambalah 29.12.2013 - 19:06 ]
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  • »29.12.13 - 18:00
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