For watching traditional TV on a Peg 2 using MOS, what is the best option? There was an old software package supporting PCI tv cards. Does this still run with MOS 3.3? Which cards are good for that purpose? It is an old cable tv connection, so no DVB.
Or are there any USB thumb drives that will work?

Hi Connor!
The best option is an old analog tv card and Vsionary. This software can display tv channel but there is a problem as you pointed: no dvb. But the solution exists.. You can buy a tv card according to this speccifications:
http://web.archive.org/web/20090522143315/http://visionary.cybergraphx.de/
This is the old Visionary website where you can find wich chipsets/cards are supported.
Here a Terratec pci card with Conexant 878A:
http://www.ebay.it/itm/Analoge-TV-Karte-Terratec-Terra-TV-Version-1-1-PCI-Conexant-Fusion-878A-LOOK-/131005927266?pt=DE_Computing_Videoaufnahme_TV_Karten&hash=item1e808fcf62&_uhb=1
Then you should buy a scart to composite+audio adapter like this:
http://www.riparatore.netsons.org/flatpress/fp-content/images/scart_rca.jpg
Now you have to connect the scart adapter to your digital decoder, a cable from the composite pin jack of the scart adapter to the one on the pci tv card, a cable from the audio exit of the scart adapter in the "out in" of the SoundBlaster (assuming you have one mounted on your Pegasos or you can use the "line In" onboard), power on the decoder and start Visionary. Select "composite" on the remote control wich will be displayed and enjoy your tv programs! Of course the remote control on your screen will only be useable to switch from channels to s-vhs or composite. To switch from a tv channel to another you will have to use the remote control of your decoder.
Note that Visionary needs its set of skins to work or it will display nothing. You can download Visionary here:
http://morphos-files.net/find.php?find=visionary
but you won't find the skins inside the lha file. I'm going to submit those files to Krashan so if someone should be interested he will find them there.

> http://web.archive.org/web/20090522143315/http://visionary.cybergraphx.de/

Actual website URL:
http://tunkki.dk/~cyfm/visionary/

> you won't find the skins inside the lha file.

http://tunkki.dk/~cyfm/visionary/SkinsTV.lha

Wow!
Thanks Andreas! I had been searching this for a while without success. Not a good search mine... =)

Is there likely to be a solution for USB TV sticks to be usable on MorphOS, as that would be really good, even if there was only one specific, popular (readily available) USB TV stick coded for use with MorphOS.

I ask because I have a Mac Mini with no option to fit a PCI card, so a USB TV or Firewire TV (if there is one) stick/card would be a solution, where a PCI card just isn't even possible.

DVB is no problem. I don't want it. the qualityy is too poor if you live in an area with a lot of high buildings. And if it is raining heavily it is even worse.

But is it that complicated? I just thought I would plug in a PCI card, connect the cable to it and install Visionary. Why do I have t tinker with SCART and composite adapter and all that? And no I don't have Soundblaster. I just use onboard sound. And can I use a physical remote control, too? I don't want it on the screen. I want it in my hand.

And yes, I already asked for USB thumb drives in my first posting but it seems people do not use it with MOS. Maybe because I have not read of any driver so far. USB solution would be easiest one. Firewire would be okay too but the prices are higher and the devices are rare. Maybe we can ask Yomgui for a driver for one device?

[ Edited by connor 24.10.2013 - 18:55 ]

@Connor:

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Once it was as you wrote. But Visionary is a little bit old and it uses old analogic signal based tv cards and this is why I wrote all that tricky solution. Maybe it's possible to use new tv card with digital decoder onboard according to the chipsets Visionary supports. And yes, using this solution you have to play your remote control, the real remote control, or you won't be able to browse tv channels. The one on screen which appear when Visionary is launched is almost useless.

But the SCART adaptor for me is useless. I have no SCART devices. What can I do then?

I simply stream over network using my satellite receivers as source. Works quite well. A PowerMac 933 with two graphic cards is able to play two tv-streams at the same time.

Useless but possible :D

Geit

No satellite available. Just plain TV cable.

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Would be the same here. Analoge-TV is no longer available/an option.

Geit

On the point where I want to install it, it is the only option. A TV set could be bought but that's too much. So maybe a standalone receiver is the better option rather than tinkering with SCART plugs again. I just wanted to save the space and one power plug.

The best I think that is the streaming; but without flash and silverlight is pretty frustrating.

Try to spoof as ipad... -.-

broadband internet is too slow, strweaming makes no fun. cable tv is still the way to go at that place

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How are you doing that?

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I simply provide mplayer the stream my receivers provide and change channel using the web interface.
This is for my dreambox. Of course you need to adapt ip, user password and path to match your receivers requirements.

;---
Cd ram:
wget >NIL: *>NIL: "http://root:dreambox@192.168.0.234/video.m3u"
SYS:Applications/MPlayer/mplayer >NIL: *>NIL: -cachenetwork -cache 8192 -playlist video.m3u
Delete >NIL: video.m3u
;---

Geit

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So how do you do that - adapt IP, user password, etc. ?

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I tried this in a shell window, but nothing happened - should it?

I would still like to see a USB DTV stick supported for MorphOS, if it is possible.

@NewSense

No it shouldn't, this is just an example, you got to provide commands with your own settings, for example ip of your own stream etc.

No USB TV devices as. I amaware of.

You can use a TV card supported by Visionary to watch analog TV or bring any video source through composite cable on your Peg2 screen, through Visiobary and the TV card. This was basically explained on the second post.

NewSense,
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I guess usb DVB sticks will suffer from the same MorphOS usb bottleneck as usb soundcards: no isochronous mode support for usual usb host adapters. Me wonders how high the hurdles are to get an isochronous class driver. AFAIK Poseidon generally supports it already and for the E3B usb cards (Deneb) such a class driver is actually supported.
Bounty? MorphOS 3.4, 3.5...?

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Yes I understand that, I am only interested in a USB DTV stick being supported by a driver/application with MorphOS as my Mac Mini only has USB or Firewire ports to support such hardware - no PCI interface, as you probably know.

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I would support a MorphOS Bounty for such a project. I just need to know it is a feasible project, one with a likelihood of succeeding before offering money for such a bounty - that is what I was hoping to find out.


[ Edited by NewSense 27.10.2013 - 23:13 ]