Can't install MorphOS on Efika
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
    From: Stockholm, Sweden
    I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.

    I've bought an Efika. I've gotten so far as to boot it from USB, start the installation and I get as far as finishing downloading the ISO. But I can't press "install" for some reason since it's grayed out.

    I guess it has something to do with the Flash card. I've tried to format it in my G5 MorphOS machine and my Windows machine. I've tried different settings in HDtoolbox (different FAT32). I've chosen it as bootable and so on and so forth. Nothing happens.

    I've searched the net and on morphos.de but found no answer to this question. So now I'm turning to you guys.

    What should I do?
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    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3108 from 2003/3/5
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    OK, let's get the facts straight: you've got a USB stick with the efika boot.img and the downloaded MorphOS3.3.iso on it, is that right? You also have a RDB partitioned disk with a bootable SFS/FFS partition on it, is that right? And when you select the ISO file and the bootable partition, the Install button remains grayed out, is that right? How about a screenshot?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
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    RDB partitioned disk with a bootable SFS/FFS partition?

    No, those parts where not mentioned anywhere. Only that it needs to be "bootable" which I can do in iWisard or HDtoolbox. I have not been able to format the disk in those format as well. Only FAT in different versions and NTFS and some other but not SFS or FFS. At least not when booting via USB.

    What should I do?

    [EDIT] Changed the sentences to make it more understandable.

    [ Edited by Yasu 09.10.2013 - 00:29 ]
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12163 from 2003/5/22
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    > RDB partitioned disk with a bootable SFS/FFS partition? No, those
    > parts where not mentioned anywhere. [...] I have not been able to
    > format the disk in those format as well. Only FAT in different
    > versions and NTFS and some other but not SFS or FFS.

    "I want to set-up a SFS partition, but its not available in HDConfig and iWizard. How is this working?
    The problem is that you selected MBR as partition table [...]. The solution is to change the boot block type to RDB. This can be done by using right mouse button above the hard drive image. In the newly appeared context menu you can select RDB. After this is done, SFS can easily be chosen via the GUI.
    "
    http://www.morphos-team.net/faq
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
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    Thanks! I tried this and I got MorphOS to install!

    But when I tried to reboot, I got an error message. "Can not boot".

    I formatted one partition of 4 MB with SFS and installed sucessfully MOS on this. What did I do wrong?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
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    Is there something I need to do when I format the Flash disk? Like make two partitions (one for boot img, one for system) for example? Do I need to copy something manually? Or do I need to name the partion in a certain way? Or should I just try to reinstall again and see if that works?
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  • »09.10.13 - 11:03
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3108 from 2003/3/5
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    Quote:

    Yasu wrote:
    Is there something I need to do when I format the Flash disk? Like make two partitions (one for boot img, one for system) for example? Do I need to copy something manually? Or do I need to name the partion in a certain way? Or should I just try to reinstall again and see if that works?


    You don't need two partitions, use one SFS bootable partition. There's no need for manual copies either, but it seems you are expecting things will auto-boot after installation while that is not the case. See "How do I setup or modify the auto-boot feature? (Open Firmware)" in http://morphos-team.net/faq
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
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    Aha! I guess I'm too used to install on Macs :-) I'll take a look at it after work.

    I guess not that many install MOS on Efika anymore, but a link from the installation instruction page would be much appriciated, with a note of where to look when/if things go wrong. Looking at the FAQ was not my first idea since for me FAQs are not really there for troubleshooting.

    I guess I'm not the only one either: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=62700
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
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    Well, did you read http://morphos-team.net/installation ? :)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
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    I did. Didn't notice the new boot options though. But the format thing isn't mentioned.

    It's a little rocket science to me. I just want MOS to autoboot.
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
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    Quote:

    Yasu wrote:
    It's a little rocket science to me. I just want MOS to autoboot.


    Stick to the Macs then :)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
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    Thanks for the advice, butI would prefer to get this to work actually. I never work with firmware so I'm a fish out of water here.

    A simple instruction like: "Do this, write this, save and done" would really make my day. I prefer that instead of guessing.

    And I AM greatful for all the help I'm always getting. So you all know :-)
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
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    Quote:

    Yasu wrote:
    A simple instruction like: "Do this, write this, save and done" would really make my day. I prefer that instead of guessing.



    It's there in the FAQ, as it was already pointed out (How do I setup or modify the auto-boot feature? (Open Firmware)).
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1282 from 2010/1/6
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    I did'nt read that all, but the way to boot is simple:

    Preparing:

    1. Do what AW wrote: Set HD to RDB and make first partition SFS. 2nd partition can also be SFS or ICE-FS (for files >2GB)
    2. Format these partitions
    3. Install Morphos on first partition (could be a 1:1 copy of the ISO or use installation tool) The file boot.img MUST be on 1st partition!

    Guess you've done this 3 steps, did you?

    Now lets play with Open Firmware:

    Type in following:

    > -1 to lines/page (will display maximum lines on screen and waits for keypress to continue)
    > printenv (displays all environment variables)

    Now you should see many entries, but the interresting one are those (and the value in the left column):

    boot-device -> should be set to "hd:0"
    boot-file -> should be set to "boot.img"
    boot-command -> should be set to "boot"
    auto-boot? -> should be set to "true"

    you can set propper values by following command:

    > setenv "Var-Name" "value or string" (eg: setenv boot-file boot.img)

    Then reboot - it should work!

    If not: If there is an error like "cannot find hd:0" or similar, then the devalias for hd is not set. hd:0 means first partition of hd.
    And hd should be set to: /builtin@F0000000/ata/@F0003A00/disk@0,0
    you can check this with command > devalias
    If not set, it has to be defined in nvram (non volatile ram) with nvedit. But normaly it should be preset from factory......
    (For testing you can type in:
    boot /builtin@F0000000/ata/@F0003A00/disk@0,0:0 boot.img)

    Good luck!




    [ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 09.10.2013 - 19:43 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
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    @Amigaharry2

    Thanks! Just the kind of info I wanted. I'll try this when I get home from work :-)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
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    @Amigaharry2

    The first three steps I had already done. When I got home from work now I did your step-by-step guide and everything worked beautifully! I needed to change the boot-file and after that MorphOS booted without any hitch and everything works as it should! Thank you so very much! :-D
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1282 from 2010/1/6
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    Fine! Have much fun with your EFIKA.

    Btw some hints:
    You may shorten bootime from 5000 to 2000! It's long enough to break in emergency-case and you need'nt too long to wait....
    If you set boot-time to zero or too short, you can only break to enter Open Firmware by holding down a key, during-switch on EFIKA or by removing the boot device.

    In some cases EFIKA may have troubles booting from USB-STicks or USB-HDs. But there is another way to boot and install:
    For emergency you can also boot via Ethernet! You need only to run a TFTP-Server on another Amiga/MOS/Windows/...-machine connected to the same network. Put install.img in TFTP-Servers origin directory, start the server and boot on EFIKA with:

    boot eth:<server ip>, install.img (eg: boot eth:192.168.0.1, install.img)

    Install.img can be found on MorphOS homepage (http://www.morphos-team.net/morphos-3.3-efikainstall.img)
    TFTP-Server can be found on AmiNet.

    EFIKA will boot now in a minimal MorphOS, which let you easy prepair your HD and do the real installation.

    There are also additional, usefull boot-options for the Quark-Kernel:
    "BM" boots to Bootmenue (same as Amiga's early startup by pressing both mouse buttons)
    "PC" Preload DOS-command (or any other Amiga/MOS-program)
    "BD" changes bootdevice for MorphOS(!) - this does'nt really make sense on EFIKA, because most installations on EFIKA have MorphOS AND boot.img on the same partition.....

    example:
    boot hd:0 boot.img BM ->boots to boot menue
    boot hd:0 boot.img PC "addbuffers >NIL: CD0: 20000" ->adds 20000 buffers to device CD0:
    boot hd:0 boot.img rd rds 0 -> sets romdebugsize to zero - saves a little memory.....

    Greetings to Sweden!




    [ Editiert durch Amigaharry2 10.10.2013 - 01:40 ]
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