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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
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    Raf_MegaByte wrote:
    I forgot to mention I was talking of FFS2...

    ...and not of a one generic FFS. :-P


    I may be really ignorant here, and if so I do apologize. But AFAIK, the point with FFS2 was to make a fully backwards compatible re-implementation in C of the Fast File System that among a few other things supports media greater than 4 GBytes. I don't use the FFS for anything except for the boot partition (which isn't exactly 4GB+ in size ;-)) so I wouldn't know, but I honestly thought that MorphOS had FFS2. At least that is what all the docs say. Would the classic Amiga FFS even work on the Pegasos otherwise, without being reimplemented this way? And it's not listed as emulated, but native. I also remember some arguments on some forum (was it amiga.org?) a *very* long time ago, where some OS4 supporters kind of complained about the fact that FFS2 was mentioned in the first MorphOS feature list that was put online (this was supposed to be an OS4 component only, why are you MorphOS guys using it, this is piracy, etc, etc) but the answer was that the MorphOS guys had licensed this from Olaf himself a long time ago already, probably before Hyperion *even started* the work on their OS. I also almost recall that there actually was some kind of update in the FFS2 area with MorphOS 1.4 (perhaps nothing more than just 2 more dostypes or so, but now I am really in the deep waters and I don't know at all what I am talking about :-)). Anyway, I am actually under impression that MorphOS already have a native FFS2 implementation (from Olaf Barthel). Is this wrong?

    I also recall I read some interview with Olaf, where he spoke about the FFS2 and said it was already quite feature complete, but that there is a limit to how much improvement one could make to this old (and actually quite poor, with lots of limitations) file system without braking the backwards compatibility. If I recall correctly he was scetching on a completely new file system, that should use journaling, allow for file names to be longer than 107 characters, permit file names chosen from character sets other than ISO 8859 latin 1 and much improved seek performance, and perhaps also a plugin system for extending the file system functionality (such as for caching and encryption).

    A new file system is much needed IMHO. Perhaps this is what you mean?
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    takemehomegrandma
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    Acill wrote:
    Now getting Roadshow would be a dream come true for all of us! That is the one thing and the only thing in OS4 that has an advantages over MorphOS currently. Just think in 20 years we will have it when they complete OS4 at last. :-D


    My experience from networking on the A1/OS4 has not made me very enthusiastic about it. I never got DHCP to really work on my network. Networking works overall quite poorly, with strange problems, etc. I don't know if it has to do with the hardware or the software. It could have lots of explanations, and I have never tried to search for them.

    But yes, a PPC native TCP/IP stack like roadshow would be great! That would fill in one of the more serious gaps in the OS IMHO. If he would do that, many people would be really glad!

    I could almost donate a Pegasos to him myself (if he doesn't already have one) if he would be prepared to make this an explicit ambition.

    :-)
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    gunne
    Posts: 441 from 2003/2/25
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    Ram Disk:> version smartfilesystem full
    SmartFilesystem 1.201
    [MorphOS] (Jul 25 2003) © by John Hendrikx, Ralph Schmidt, Emmanuel Lesueur, David Gerber, Marcin Kurek

    Ram Disk:> version filesystem full
    filesystem 50.19 (2003-04-27)
    Ram Disk:>

    Gunne
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    takemehomegrandma
    Posts: 2720 from 2003/2/24
    @ Gunne

    OK thanks! :-)

    But while FFS is great for backwards compatibility, it is still quite outdated IMHO. Also SFS leave things to wish for. A new, native "real" file system would be nice! ;-)
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    Kaczus
    Posts: 199 from 2003/9/6
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    First Morphos should be develop. I'm afraid MOSTeam ppl don't know, what they want. And I see, next developers down his mos projects!
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