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Any news on Radeon 4000HD driver?

vox

# 31
Priest of the Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 524 from 2003/11/25

From: Belgrade

Quote:

Andreas_Wolf wrote:
> I have somehow missed that important update.

I have been telling you about it many times during the last two months but you chose to ignore it.

Ah, TWO MONTHS is a Hyperlink.

Surely you had, but others have been telling contrary - its uncertain and unofficial. Thanks anyway.

By the way, I have told you that SAM460ex manual says NOT ALL (But not which do/does) of these OLD cards work on SAM460ex and that Radeon 4000+ is recommended.

That is solely only reason why I keep insisting that Radeon driver is needed and that I am willing to donate towards it - I believe later on it was mentioned that there is some work on it? (beside having to downgrade and risk OS4 not supporting it)

[ Edited by vox 08.03.2014 - 00:15 ]
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»08.03.14 - 00:01

vox

# 32
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Posts: 524 from 2003/11/25

From: Belgrade

Quote:

Andreas_Wolf wrote:
>>> SAM460ex support not only for damn integrated SM502 chip

>> Are you sure the SM502 will be supported by MorphOS?

> Some gfx card has to be

Yes, and you've been told for the last two months here which cards these are supposed to be. You saying "not only for damn integrated SM502 chip" implies support for the SM502 chip. That's why I asked you.

> and its part of the board.

This doesn't mean it has to be supported.

> Whole list of supported GFX cards is useless since PCI slot is occupied on SAMs.

Over the course of the last two months, you got a list of PCIe graphics cards that are said to be supported as soon as MorphOS for Sam460 is released.

Surely, you can post link to it?
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»08.03.14 - 00:02

Andreas_Wolf

# 33
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 12085 from 2003/5/22

From: Germany

> others have been telling contrary - its uncertain and unofficial.

That doesn't change anything that has been said at and about Pianeta Amiga, which is what I've been telling you.

> SAM460ex manual says NOT ALL (But not which do/does) of these OLD cards
> work on SAM460ex

Yes, but the MorphOS Team ran such old card in public on Pianeta Amiga. This is reality beating theory.

> and that Radeon 4000+ is recommended.

No, you said HD2400+.

> I keep insisting that Radeon driver is needed

MorphOS has Radeon drivers for many years.

> I believe later on it was mentioned that there is some work on it?

Work on what?
»08.03.14 - 02:53

Andreas_Wolf

# 34
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Posts: 12085 from 2003/5/22

From: Germany

>> you got a list of PCIe graphics cards that are said to be supported as
>> soon as MorphOS for Sam460 is released.

> Surely, you can post link to it? :-)

I did. And you have found it already.
»08.03.14 - 02:54

vox

# 35
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Posts: 524 from 2003/11/25

From: Belgrade

Quote:

Andreas_Wolf wrote:
> others have been telling contrary - its uncertain and unofficial.

That doesn't change anything that has been said at and about Pianeta Amiga, which is what I've been telling you.

> SAM460ex manual says NOT ALL (But not which do/does) of these OLD cards
> work on SAM460ex

Yes, but the MorphOS Team ran such old card in public on Pianeta Amiga. This is reality beating theory.

Good give me the list.

> and that Radeon 4000+ is recommended.

No, you said HD2400+.

Its minimum, most users have 4000 really.

> I keep insisting that Radeon driver is needed

MorphOS has Radeon drivers for many years.

RadeonHD. Why do you love to pretend to be an idiot?

> I believe later on it was mentioned that there is some work on it?

Work on what?

What? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSer4nMSXak

[ Edited by vox 09.03.2014 - 08:53 ]
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»09.03.14 - 08:45

Andreas_Wolf

# 36
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Posts: 12085 from 2003/5/22

From: Germany

>>> I believe later on it was mentioned that there is some work on it?

>> Work on what?

> What? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSer4nMSXak

Sorry, I don't understand.
»09.03.14 - 09:44

Andreas_Wolf

# 37
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Posts: 12085 from 2003/5/22

From: Germany

> Radeon R500 support was actually showed live at Pianeta Amiga 2013 and support for
> R700 (HD4xxx) was already in the works. And Frank Mariak and Mark Olsen told us
> that the plan is to have them both completed for the Sam460 release.

A MorphOS team member now says that support for anything newer than R500 "is unlikely because it would be waste on low end Sams."

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=39534&forum=45#744748
»08.11.14 - 17:36

itix

# 38
MorphOS Developer

Posts: 1516 from 2003/2/24

From: Finland

Yeah. Though I dont know what is the final word on this because when travelling I am out of the loop so take it as an inofficial statement. Supported cards will be announced latest when MorphOS with SAM460 support is released.
1 + 1 = 3 with very large values of 1
»08.11.14 - 21:38

vox

# 39
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Posts: 524 from 2003/11/25

From: Belgrade

Quote:

Andreas_Wolf wrote:
> Radeon R500 support was actually showed live at Pianeta Amiga 2013 and support for
> R700 (HD4xxx) was already in the works. And Frank Mariak and Mark Olsen told us
> that the plan is to have them both completed for the Sam460 release.

A MorphOS team member now says that support for anything newer than R500 "is unlikely because it would be waste on low end Sams."

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=39534&forum=45#744748

In 2D performance that is true. According to 2D bench top performing SAM460ex card is Radeon X1950 and it beats even newer blood.

http://hdrlab.org.nz/benchmark/gfxbench2d/OS/AmigaOS?start=0

However, once 3D performance is introduced that is likely to change.

However, even R500 family support, and fixing 3D with them and previous families would make a good deal and progress, and some choice of PCI-E cards.
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»10.11.14 - 12:54

Andreas_Wolf

# 40
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Posts: 12085 from 2003/5/22

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>> A MorphOS team member now says that support for anything newer than R500
>> "is unlikely because it would be waste on low end Sams."
>> http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=39534&forum=45#744748

> In 2D performance that is true. [...] However, once 3D performance is introduced
> that is likely to change.

I've been under the impression that the MorphOS team won't release 2D-only drivers for new graphics cards anyway, which would make your statement render itix' claim untrue, wouldn't it?

> even R500 family support, and fixing 3D with them and previous families

What do you mean "fixing"?
»10.11.14 - 16:27