Is Mac hardware really evil?
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Nevermind, typed out a big message but then didn't care for it. :)

    Any thoughts about Mac hardware being evil?

    [ Edited by Doffo 11.01.2014 - 11:12 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yes, its evil, but we all need a 'Touch of Evil".
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Mac hardware is so nice that it only can be evil!!11
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    nemesiswar
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    I like mac hardware.
    I like other hardware also.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Murder is evil, rape is evil, Macs will be evil until the Hyperion High-Priest says otherwise.
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    Id say its fantastic hardware. I have so much of it, its got to be good!
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Doffo
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    Glad i'm not the only one that thinks so. :) Thanks. I feel better about owning x4 G5 towers, x3 MDD towers, and x3 Mac Minis... ;) All for MorphOS. :)
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    Two G5s, an iBook, and four G4s Power macs in various states of disassembly.
    But Macs are still evil.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Posts: 118 from 2003/8/8
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    People say Macintosh or Apple is evil the same way others say Windows and M$ are evil. Are they all evil . . . ? ? ? ?

    Apple: Some just didn't like the way Apple did business. As in keeping a tight hold on their market, which I was fine with. They wanted the experience on a mac to be good, p&p, easy to use so you could be productive. Something that was very hard to do on early win'tell machines. However I did not like the corporate jockeys that ran Apple (late 80's/early 90's) for some of there designs, like purposely crippling some models performance. The Color Classic should have arrived in 87. But in general they made quality hardware.

    M$: Well they wouldn't have had windows if they hadn't (allegedly) stolen a early copy of OS 6 and reengineered it. Did you guys follow the lawsuit? When the Judge said there were not going to be any more delays and set a court date for the shoot out. M$ settled out of court with Apple, behind closed doors. Apple was on it's death bed, like all those other companies they screwed, wronged, violated and Killed (limiting my choice in the computer world).

    The settlement was Huge. Apple got back the Steve's. NeXT and a share in M$ code.

    Who's More EVIL . . . ? ? ? ?

    I don't believe any of the hardware is evil. But Apple (possibly evil) and M$ (definitely evil) are possibly a different story.

    I know I don't like Windows as an OS, and have never liked M$ (my bayous ?) . But PC hardware is cool now'a'days . . . . :-)
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    I used to dislike Apple... now we have Mac Mini and PowerPook and two iPads.
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    >Who's More EVIL . . . ? ? ? ?

    Once Jobs stop making payments to PARC?
    They were about the same.
    Both basing their products on stolen ideas.

    Not to mention the Jobs was a nob.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    :) :) Thanks. Glad you all just like the hardware... I wasn't a fan of OS X or anything passed OS 9, but meh.... Those days are long gone. Just as the wars of 16-bit consoles are gone. The new generation systems are fighting after "who has what game" instead of how powerful the hardware is. :)
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    Doffo wrote:
    :) :) Thanks. Glad you all just like the hardware... I wasn't a fan of OS X or anything passed OS 9, but meh.... Those days are long gone. Just as the wars of 16-bit consoles are gone. The new generation systems are fighting after "who has what game" instead of how powerful the hardware is. :)


    OK...(he says as he kicks at the floor), I guess I do like them.
    Especially if i don't have to put up with OSX (which runs most stuff slower than MorphOS).
    And the G5 has my vote as the only computer system that could be used to render a blunt force trauma, and still work when plugged back in.
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  • Just looking around
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    Posts: 14 from 2009/11/6
    Modern Mac hardware is troublesome from the standpoint of being able to replace batteries and so forth. Their older hardware, however, is very well done--Especially the G4 towers.

    We aren't really using apple's software, so I don't think it's 'evil' to use older hardware--especially since we aren't paying apple anything--just giving former owners some well deserved repayment for the initial cost-outlay they made for our benefit!
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    I updated my iPhone to 7, I now can't transfer files from my PPC Powermac.

    I can't downgrade my iPhone to a version I can.

    Apple are evil. Their old hardware, less so.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Is a knive evil?
    No, if you cut bread. Yes if you kill one.....

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    it's evil to fix at least...
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    'Evil Has No Boundaries' and Mac hardware is no exception.... ;-)
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    Doffo wrote:
    Nevermind, typed out a big message but then didn't care for it. :)

    Any thoughts about Mac hardware being evil?


    Hardware cant be evil. Neither software. People can.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    vox wrote:

    Hardware cant be evil. Neither software.


    I must disagree: "Trusted Platform Modules" and other hardware-based Digital Restrictions Management systems are evil hardware. Malware etc. is evil software, by definition.
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    Any thoughts about Mac hardware being evil?


    Mac HW has been a true blessing for MorphOS!

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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Quote:

    takemehomegrandma wrote:
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    Any thoughts about Mac hardware being evil?


    Mac HW has been a true blessing for MorphOS!

    :-)


    Agree. :)
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