Installation problems on PowerPC
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    AvatharV
    Posts: 15 from 2012/11/20
    From: Modesto, CA
    I found a Mac PowerPC G4 3,3 450Mhz system in my old computer stuff. I downloaded and burned the MorphOS 3.1 CD. The system sees the CD, boots from it and lets me start the installation process.

    It formats the disk and begins to copy files.. then stops. Sometimes at 27 files, sometimes at 56 files. I think the farthest it even got was 130 files. I have tried multiple disks and multiple size boot partitions from 2G up to the full disk size.

    I am really excited about getting this up and running, but I am stuck. Any help would be appreciated.

    -AV
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    Powerbook G4 1.67Ghz, 2G RAM, 110GB HD, MorphOS 3.10
    Mac Mini G4, 1 G RAM, MorphOS 3.8
    PowerMac G5, 1.8G, 4G RAM, MorphOS 3.10 (one day)
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    amigadave
    Posts: 2795 from 2006/3/21
    From: Northern Calif...
    Your MorphOS3.1 boot CD might be faulty, or your Optical drive might be faulty and is having read problems at different points during the installation process.
    MorphOS - The best Next Gen Amiga choice.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    redrumloa
    Posts: 1424 from 2003/4/13
    Quote:

    Your MorphOS3.1 boot CD might be faulty, or your Optical drive might be faulty and is having read problems at different points during the installation process.


    This sounds most likely, I'd guess the CD drive.

    Do you have a spare CD drive to swap?
  • »21.11.12 - 12:12
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    AvatharV
    Posts: 15 from 2012/11/20
    From: Modesto, CA
    I will re-burn the CD from a different download and use a different CD rom drive. I will keep you posted.

    -Thanks
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    Powerbook G4 1.67Ghz, 2G RAM, 110GB HD, MorphOS 3.10
    Mac Mini G4, 1 G RAM, MorphOS 3.8
    PowerMac G5, 1.8G, 4G RAM, MorphOS 3.10 (one day)
  • »21.11.12 - 22:43
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    AvatharV
    Posts: 15 from 2012/11/20
    From: Modesto, CA
    UPDATE: I re-downloaded the ISO from the Mirror site. I burned the image on a different brand CDR. I used a different CDROM drive and tried on several hard drives.. and I still get the same. It is almost like the CDROMs are too fast and fill up a buffer then never resume. I don't know if this is accurate, just how it appears. I even tried installing it on a 32G thumb drive and figured I would copy the files over manually after it completed, but no luck. It stopped just like all the hard drives.

    My next questions are:

    I know it would be a lot harder, but is there a manual install routine? or process? I was pretty proficient with Amigas back in the day and would be willing to do the work to copy files over manually. I mean, it looks like the install always gets through the hard drive partitioning and then stalls on the file copy. If I could just finish the copy up myself, how much "install" is after that? The farthest it has gotten was 3901 files copied.

    Is MorphOS like AmigaOS, where if I get the files on some other media (like a flash drive), I could just copy them to the hard drive at successfully boot from it?

    I know licensing is different animal and we aren't even gonna cross that road yet.

    It looks like this PowerPC has 2 CPUs, could that be causing a problem? I think I read that MorphOS doesn't use both CPUs, but could that cause what I am seeing?

    Aside from all this.. the only way I see this coming up is if I can get someone to install it on a hard drive for me.

    Any help is appreciated.
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    Powerbook G4 1.67Ghz, 2G RAM, 110GB HD, MorphOS 3.10
    Mac Mini G4, 1 G RAM, MorphOS 3.8
    PowerMac G5, 1.8G, 4G RAM, MorphOS 3.10 (one day)
  • »22.11.12 - 04:16
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  • jPV
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    jPV
    Posts: 2110 from 2003/2/24
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    Quote:

    Is MorphOS like AmigaOS, where if I get the files on some other media (like a flash drive), I could just copy them to the hard drive at successfully boot from it?


    I guess you could do it that way too. I don't remember if installer copies needed files to HFS partition first or last... so you'd better check if your Boot: (DH0:) partition has few files (boot.img etc). If it does, then try to copy whole CD to System: (DH1:) partition. After it open shell and cd to System: (not sys:) and execute hdinstall.fixc and hdinstall.fixscripts script files to get needed protection bits set. I guess the system should boot from the HD then. There might be some minor things I don't remember now or which are set a bit differently in installation, but basically I think the system should be usable after these steps.

    If your Boot: partition doesn't have any files, let's get into that later :)
  • »22.11.12 - 06:53
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    Krashan
    Posts: 1107 from 2003/6/11
    From: Białystok...
    It looks like this PowerPC has 2 CPUs, could that be causing a problem?

    No. I have a very similar machine (PowerMac 3,3, 500 MHz dual) and MorphOS installs on it just fine.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    redrumloa
    Posts: 1424 from 2003/4/13
    AvatharV,
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    UPDATE: I re-downloaded the ISO from the Mirror site. I burned the image on a different brand CDR. I used a different CDROM drive and tried on several hard drives.. and I still get the same.


    Hmm, sounds like your Powermac hardware may be fubar. :-(
  • »22.11.12 - 23:45
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    AvatharV
    Posts: 15 from 2012/11/20
    From: Modesto, CA
    Hardware fubar in what respect? From the CD I was able to get in and do various things and was looking around one of my old hard drives for a couple ours with no crash or errors.

    Are you thinking the motherboard, ram, processors, cables? Any more specifics would be appreciated.

    -AV
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    Powerbook G4 1.67Ghz, 2G RAM, 110GB HD, MorphOS 3.10
    Mac Mini G4, 1 G RAM, MorphOS 3.8
    PowerMac G5, 1.8G, 4G RAM, MorphOS 3.10 (one day)
  • »23.11.12 - 01:06
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    pan1k
    Posts: 147 from 2009/1/20
    Well, I think the IDE cables need to be 80 conductor. Can you borrow an external CDROM and try that? Try to reset the PRAM.
    MacMini 1.5Ghz / Amiga 4000T Cyberstorm 060, 132MB RAM, Cybervision 64/3D, XSurf-III, MP3@64, Buddha Flash / Amiga 1200 GVP 030, Subway USB, 32MB RAM
  • »23.11.12 - 05:38
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    AvatharV
    Posts: 15 from 2012/11/20
    From: Modesto, CA
    jPV,
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    I guess you could do it that way too. I don't remember if installer copies needed files to HFS partition first or last... so you'd better check if your Boot: (DH0:) partition has few files (boot.img etc). If it does, then try to copy whole CD to System: (DH1:) partition. After it open shell and cd to System: (not sys:) and execute hdinstall.fixc and hdinstall.fixscripts script files to get needed protection bits set. I guess the system should boot from the HD then. There might be some minor things I don't remember now or which are set a bit differently in installation, but basically I think the system should be usable after these steps.

    If your Boot: partition doesn't have any files, let's get into that later :)


    Dude.. thanks for the advice!! I checked DH0 and it had several files in it including the boot.img. I copied all the files to my DH1: and I ran the hdinstall scripts. And PRESTO.. I am typing to you on my PowerPC G4 MorphOS3.1 system!

    One followup question though.. Everything seems to be working pretty well including the internet, obviously. I tried changing the pointers to Chicago (or some other one) and it doesn't want to change. It is listed, so I would think it is included in the install, but it never changes. Any tips on this?

    -AV

    [ Edited by AvatharV 22.11.2012 - 23:51 ]
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    Powerbook G4 1.67Ghz, 2G RAM, 110GB HD, MorphOS 3.10
    Mac Mini G4, 1 G RAM, MorphOS 3.8
    PowerMac G5, 1.8G, 4G RAM, MorphOS 3.10 (one day)
  • »23.11.12 - 06:07
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  • jPV
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    jPV
    Posts: 2110 from 2003/2/24
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    AvatharV,
    Quote:

    I am typing to you on my PowerPC G4 MorphOS3.1 system!


    Wohoo! \o/

    Quote:

    One followup question though.. Everything seems to be working pretty well including the internet, obviously. I tried changing the pointers to Chicago (or some other one) and it doesn't want to change. It is listed, so I would think it is included in the install, but it never changes. Any tips on this?


    Pointer should change immediately when you click Save or Use... hmmm.. are you seeing 15 different pointer images on each line next to pointer name? Not just pointer names? Just thinking if it can't load actual images or so... They reside in MOSSYS:Prefs/Pointers/ as .info files if you want to check each pointer dir has 15 images and r protection bit is set for all...

    And BTW. MOSSYS: is assign pointing to SYS:MorphOS/ directory. If you install 3rd party pointers, copy them to SYS:Prefs/Pointers/ dir instead. But in this default pointers case, check the SYS:MorphOS/Prefs/Pointers dir.

    [ Edited by jPV 23.11.2012 - 11:18 ]
  • »23.11.12 - 08:07
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