SATA-III to PATA adapter in Mac mini or PowerBook
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    dake
    Posts: 204 from 2007/9/14
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    Is there anyone using this kind of adapter that fit inside a mac mini or powerbook?
    I thinking of buying a nice very very fast SSD because I want my bus to be fed as fast as possible:)
    My bus is very very hungry!
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    IDE SSD?

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=ide+ssd&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=9509290265&ref=pd_sl_2skfegjv04_e

    Other retailers are available

    [ Edited by stephen_robinson 26.01.2012 - 17:15 ]
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    dake
    Posts: 204 from 2007/9/14
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    I want SPEED, if you look at KINGSTON HYPERX 120GB SSD SATA/600 it can deliver about 500Mb/s, this bastard will fill my bus entirely:)
    Maybe there is some bastard IDE SSD also, please point one out that fills my bus regardless if its read or write, small or large files.
  • »26.01.12 - 17:17
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  • Caterpillar
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    There already are PATA SSD. So no adapter is needed. I don't think the adapter and the SSD would even fit inside a PowerBook.

    Look here for example.

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    PegII, 512 MB Ram, Radeon 8500, NEC USB-Card
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    But you'd still be running it on IDE from the M/B side wouldn't you, Dunno about SATA cards, not an option for Powerbooks/Minis without a lot of work of course!
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > Is there anyone using this kind of adapter that fit inside a mac mini or powerbook?

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=6237&start=157

    Should be the same for the PowerBook.
  • »26.01.12 - 17:21
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    matt3
    Posts: 698 from 2004/2/10
    I'm using THIS and it works great in my powerbook. You don't need an adapter for this drive. Just plug and play, since it's PATA already.

    They have videos on how to install and of speed tests.



    [ Edited by matt3 26.01.2012 - 12:53 ]
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    dake
    Posts: 204 from 2007/9/14
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    @all Big thanks for an incredible fast response:) I must say that Im very impressed about the drive matt3 linked to!!
    PATA IDE drives usually dont show this nice results.
    @matt3 what is your speed when you copy a large file?
  • »26.01.12 - 18:45
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    matt3
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    dake,
    Hi Dake,

    I haven't done any speed tests yet, when I get a chance I will. What program on osx would you like me to use?

    From what I read before I bought the drive, it seemed like the best fit. No adapters, fast, and great firmware to protect long term performance.

    Nice also to see my PB with the SSD against one with out.
  • »26.01.12 - 19:23
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    dake
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    Hi matt3, it would be nice if you just do an ordinary copy of a large file, 500Mb or something.
    And copy the installation files for MorphOS, this is a good small file test:)
  • »26.01.12 - 19:54
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    matt3
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    dake,
    Ok,I will copy a 500mb + file. And them some smaller files. Not going to use 2.7 on the PB, that is just a nasty tease :). When 3.0 is out I will gladly do it then...
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    matt3
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    dake,
    I did a normal copy test and it really flies... Amazing drive. Can't wait until MOS 3 gives it a workout!

    500 mb copy take a few seconds and it's done...
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  • Jim
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    Yep, and then we'll get SATA controller drivers (although only for SATA I) which should allow us to use SATA SSDs in Macs.
    We should be able to saturate the 150mbs bandwidth.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »07.02.12 - 02:16
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    dake
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    @matt3, thanks, but can you please be more exactly:) so we get some xx mb/s
  • »07.02.12 - 18:56
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    matt3
    Posts: 698 from 2004/2/10
    dake,
    Quote:

    thanks, but can you please be more exactly:) so we get some xx mb/s

    Is there a tool for OSX you would recommend for this?
  • »07.02.12 - 19:07
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  • Butterfly
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    matt3,
    Quote:

    I'm using THIS and it works great in my powerbook. You don't need an adapter for this drive. Just plug and play, since it's PATA already.


    I watched the videos for this beast. I'm thinking a 17" powerbook, this SSD, and MorphOS 3.0 should be an absolute riot to use. Me thinks of cramming the idea of an MDD desktop unit and putting my eggs all into the Powerbook basket. 8-)
  • »07.02.12 - 22:27
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    matt3
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    Rodomoc,
    It does make a nice package for sure, quiet and fast. Right now my biggest complaint is OSX bloat. Just bought coreplayer and it plays 720p well.

    My best guess is that 3.0 will scream on a PB with and SSD... MOS 3, anyone, anyone, Bueller, anyone, MOS TEAM, anyone, anyone. (the Ferris Bueller Superbowl add is in my head and thought I would have some fun, sorry:).
  • »07.02.12 - 22:43
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
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    matt3,
    Quote:

    Rodomoc,
    It does make a nice package for sure, quiet and fast. Right now my biggest complaint is OSX bloat. Just bought coreplayer and it plays 720p well.


    Agree that Morph3 should haul some serious ass with this SSD. Now that I think of it, 2d/3d video on that 9700 mobility video chip should be serious fun too. Can you comment on power consumption ATA drive vs SSD in your machine? Logic tells me the SSD should be less but I do not want to assume. Quoted battery life on those G4 laptops is 5.5 hours. Seems far fetched to me but then I am used to this Dell which is nothing but a power pig. Anyway, perhaps the SSD would lend to longer battery life? Just a thought....
  • »07.02.12 - 23:25
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    dake
    Posts: 204 from 2007/9/14
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    @matt3, just use a regular watch, second's precision is enough:) If this beast maxes out the bus a copy of 500mb should take 10sek total, 5sek to read 500mb and 5sek to write it, if the internal bus in your powerbook is ata100. Remember to make the test when there is no cache of your 500mb file in memory, you can't get true SSD speed if you clock the copy of the same file more than one time after a reboot. If you have a larger file than 500mb, you can clock that file instead.
  • »08.02.12 - 09:44
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