backing up morphos
  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    trotter
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/14
    From: UK
    Hello,

    I wish to back up my working 2.4 version of morphos before i upgrade to 2.6 for this mac mini.

    Do i need to backup the dh1: boot partition as well as the Morphos partition dh2:?

    thanks

    Martin
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    boot_wb
    Posts: 874 from 2007/4/9
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    The boot.img on the "boot" partition will be required to boot into MorphOS 2.4 if you want restore your 2.4 setup. However, this "boot" partition contains no configuration information (boot.img is exactly as contained on the original MorphOS iso image).

    If you need to re-install from scratch in the future, you would need the MorphOS 2.4 disk to boot (unless you have some other way of setting up HFS & SFS partitions), which contains this boot.img anyway.

    So "no" you don't need to back the partition up, but "yes" you will need the boot.img file contained therein in order to restore the 2.4 installation (but it can just as easily be taken from the MorphOS 2.4 disk).

    Regards



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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    trotter
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/14
    From: UK
    ok thanks for that looks like i can leave it since its on the morphos2.4 cd

    Can i use abackup to backup the morphos install like a used to do on classic 68k amiga 4000?

    Or is there some hidden files like windows which requires a special way to backup?

    thanks

    Martin
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12408 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > is there some hidden files like windows which requires a special way to backup?

    No. With MorphOS the user is in full control ;-)
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    trotter
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/14
    From: UK
    Quote:


    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > is there some hidden files like windows which requires a special way to backup?

    No. With MorphOS the user is in full control ;-)


    Ahh good next and last Question:
    There is no potential problem backing up to a fat32 partition?

    Martin
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  • Butterfly
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    Get27
    Posts: 90 from 2004/8/23
    From: Vinzelles, France
    Hi,

    Not a good idea.
    you will loose file attributes.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12408 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > There is no potential problem backing up to a fat32 partition?

    If intending to backup to a filesystem that doesn't support AmigaOS/MorphOS peculiarities like protection bits or file comments (like FAT) I'd recommend to put the data into an LHA archive before.
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 3215 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    And I'd recommend using tar instead of lha since it's more reliable and preserves softlinks.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
    Posts: 809 from 2008/7/6
    From: Antwerp, Belgium
    how about diavolo ?

    [ Edited by Oepabakkes on 2010/11/8 22:28 ]
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    trotter
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/14
    From: UK
    Quote:


    Oepabakkes wrote:
    how about diavolo ?

    [ Edited by Oepabakkes on 2010/11/8 22:28 ]


    Is diavolo a ppc native program?
    Any other reason to use it rathr than ABackup?
    I remember trying diabolo on my 4000 but prefered abackup at the time.

    Martin
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12408 from 2003/5/22
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    > Is diavolo a ppc native program?

    https://morph.zone/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1457
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    trotter
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/14
    From: UK
    Quote:


    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > Is diavolo a ppc native program?

    https://morph.zone/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1457


    Ahh thanks will have to have a look at it along with ABackup.

    It didnt appear on a search of aminet or MorphOS files websites for morphos backup programs

    Martin
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  • jPV
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    jPV
    Posts: 2166 from 2003/2/24
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    I prefer using backup media which is formatted to Amiga/MorphOS compatible filesystem. It's easy to recover even single files etc from it then and all protection bits etc are preserved for sure. Backup process is fast too.

    I've used SFS formatted USB memory sticks and just recently formatted my 250GB external USB HD to SFS (remember 128GB partition size limit with SFS though!) to collect all my system backups into one place. "copy #? dest: all clone quiet" is good way to make simple backups and if you want to avoid full backuping every time or want to copy softlinks (from SDK for example) correctly, you can use BackUp program or similar software...

    [ Edited by jPV on 2010/11/9 9:40 ]
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    trotter
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/14
    From: UK
    Quote:


    Get27 wrote:
    Hi,

    Not a good idea.
    you will loose file attributes.



    But that will not matter if i set diavolo to backup to a hard file?

    Martin
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
    Posts: 809 from 2008/7/6
    From: Antwerp, Belgium
    I just wanted to backup with Diavolo. I want to make an "image" from my System (dh1) ... I get a requester that this function is limited to 3.8 TB. My DH1: is 2GB, so not sure why it does that.

    I am now backing it up with the "directory" function... but that's not really what I wanted. I would like to take a complete image of a partition so when something goes wrong I can just put it back after I did boot from the MorphOS iso or something like that.

    [ Edited by Oepabakkes on 2010/11/12 16:34 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    matt3
    Posts: 747 from 2004/2/10
    Hi Martin,

    I wouldn't recommend backing up to a hardfile, with the limitations of the native files systems. Perhaps with icefs gets stable or ext2. Or if you can keep the content under a 2 gig hardfile compressed.

    I use and highly recommend backup by onyxsoft, it is found on aminet.net or http://www.onyxsoft.se/. It does a file copy with lots of features and is compatible with Morphos. I have had great luck with it.

    Matt

    [ Edited by matt3 on 2010/11/12 13:39 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
    Posts: 809 from 2008/7/6
    From: Antwerp, Belgium
    I used that bach when I had a µA1 ... didn't realize it was MorphOS compatible, it sure is nice backupsoftware.
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    trotter
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/14
    From: UK
    Thanks for sugggestion but i would like to compress my backup and also exclude some files from compression.

    The exclude in diavolo looks like requires editing a text file unlike what i remmber from abackup on my a4000

    Martin
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    matt3
    Posts: 747 from 2004/2/10
    Quote:


    Oepabakkes wrote:
    I used that bach when I had a µA1 ... didn't realize it was MorphOS compatible, it sure is nice backupsoftware.


    The author is great to work with, he wrote in compatibility for me and has updated the product fairly often. The executable is still 68k but it does softlinks for MOS.

    Regards,

    Matt
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    trotter
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/14
    From: UK
    Well since i used ABackup on my 68k a4000 I tried it in morphos
    and it seems to work ok so far with a backup on the a4000 to cd and unarchiving within morphos.

    If anyone knows of any bugs with using 68k ABackup please mention it

    thanks
    Martin
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  • »14.11.10 - 15:37
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