> I don't support your opinion that there's anything relative in the statements I quoted.

Well, you are free to support what you want.

> The "some statistics" I refer to are the numbers from this very thread. Of course I can't assure that the members who posted them didn't manipulate them. But then I don't see a reason why.

I'm sure no one manipulated the numbers from this thread, including me (except you'd call me a liar, out of the reason I can stress Geits arguments pro Efika...).

> I hope you don't mind that I trust the hard and cold numbers more than the "experience" of you both.

Well, you are free to trust what and who you want.

For the sake of my and the audiences' nerves I would like to end this off-topic discussion.