Update:

> Let's see if HD5000 series ("Evergreen"/R800) will also
> come with AGP/PCI models. I've yet to spot one.

Now I did, PCI models that is:

http://www.hisdigital.com/un/product2-580.shtml
http://www.powercolor.com/global/products_features.asp?id=326
http://www.club-3d.com/index.php/products/reader.en/product/radeon-hd-5450-pci-noiseless-edition.html

To date, no HD6000 ("Northern Islands"/R900) as AGP or PCI model.

That's a curious design. I wonder if PCI will bottleneck performance?
One thing we can still be fairly sure of, even if AGP Radeon HD cards start to become common they won't work in a Peg.

"Pantaloon"! I don't think I've ever seen that word used before. Hilarious.

> I wonder if PCI will bottleneck performance?

From a December's review at Newegg, awarding 4/5 eggs:

"Runs Doom 3 (despite being outdated) at a nice framerate (smoother than my ATI Radeon 9200 AGP), however in some spots it's still slow but not too slow (10-15 FPS). [...] PCI is slow but if you are going to do simple OpenGL stuff or do anything not super intensive (Quake 3 and such), you will be fine. [...] If you have AGP or PCIe, use those instead of this card if you want performance."

> even if AGP Radeon HD cards start to become common

I don't know about "common", but so far they've been available for every Radeon generation through HD4000 (R700) at least.

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7261&forum=11&start=39

> they won't work in a Peg.

Yes, that's also my take on this.

> "Pantaloon"! I don't think I've ever seen that word used before. Hilarious.

My dictionary presented this as one possible translation of the German "Hanswurst" ;-)

Yes, I'm aware of the 4650 and 4670 AGP cards and I've owned older cards like the AGP version of the 3850 (which I found to be an more even performer than a lot of later cards).

And yes, pantaloon's is a completely valid word, its just no longer in common use any more (its like reading an old term from a Dickens novel).

Quote:

Wow - neither leo.org nor dict.tu-chmenitz.de know this word. Let me guess: you're using a Pons "Großwörterbuch ". It's on page 1624 in the 4th edition. Nice word!
My Collier's dictionary says the word comes from the Italian comedy and is as PAntalone a nickname for Venezian saints

[ Editiert durch Zylesea an 2011/2/1 18:20 ]

> neither leo.org nor dict.tu-chmenitz.de know this word.
> Let me guess: you're using a Pons "Großwörterbuch ".

Actually, I used dict.cc as "my dictionary" ;-)

http://www.dict.cc/?s=hanswurst

Interesting:

"Many thanks to Frank Richter: The vocabulary of dict.cc is based on the word list he released at dict.tu-chemnitz.de."
http://www.dict.cc/?s=about%3A&l=e

So it seems "pantaloon" has been added to dict.cc at a later date.

Congratulations Andreas. Not only is your English concise and well worded, but your functional vocabulary is larger than most people that speak English as their primary language.

[ Edited by Jim on 2011/2/1 19:20 ]