MorphOS on Apple G4 Cube?
  • Cocoon
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    macsociety
    Posts: 57 from 2010/1/18
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    jacadcaps wrote:
    At the moment there are no plans to support this piece of hardware. They seem hard to get as well, so first of all we need to get access to such a machine. For now the focus is on more capable hw.


    They sell on eBay all the time for cheaper than Mac Minis so there are tons out there for sale cheap. But yes, it is older and slow than minis so I do understand. Would be cool though. An MorphOS Cube.
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12058 from 2003/5/22
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    > Would be cool though. An MorphOS Cube.

    http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=654246
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
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    Intesting, I bought a boxed Cube for not that much recently, I shall try it this weekend.
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    cyfm
    Posts: 537 from 2003/4/11
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    G4 Cube is actually the only machine we left enabled in MorphOS 2.7 but didn't really promote it due to lack of audio and proper network support. MorphOS 2.7 CD should boot ok from it, though. Even with the ATI Rage card various Cubes have.
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    Everything apart from network and sound* seems to be working from CD I shall try installing it to the hard drive..

    *Cube has no onboard sound but uses an external USB sound card/speakers things, I don't have them, so even on MacOSX my G4 cube is silent...

    It didn't seem to like dual boot, but I think that was more to do with a bigger then 128MB hard drive that was fitted, but a single boot works great, with the exception of the network card of course. 5.1 Powermac apparently.

    [ Edited by stephen_robinson 12.08.2011 - 21:43 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
    Posts: 809 from 2008/7/6
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    I guess you can get online with an USBadapter .. not sure USBsound is supported ?
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12058 from 2003/5/22
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    > USBsound is supported ?

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7951&forum=11&start=15
  • »13.08.11 - 00:44
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    cyfm
    Posts: 537 from 2003/4/11
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    with the exception of the network card of course



    Actually, the network can be made working with some additional tweaks, it's just the USB audio that requires way more efforts.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    pega-1,

    Any clues as to how?

    Also MorphOS is working pretty well, the 16MB graphics card holds it back a bit, half the blankers don't work (greyed out in the selection, which is good), and only a 2 colour mouse pointer, but other than that, certainly usable.

    Which was a real nice suprise, thanks to the MorphOS team for allowing it boot on an 'unsupported' machine.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
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    Managed to get the MorphOS/MacOSX dual boot to work, bit fiddly, and got the onboard (wired) network to work on my 450Mhz Apple Cube.

    It's what I'm using to write this...

    :-)
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Simon
    Posts: 809 from 2008/7/6
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    Does the CUBE work with MorphOS per coincedence because it has very similar hardware compared to supported hardware or did one of the devs actually had one ?
    Proud member of the Belgian Amiga Club since 2003

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    Simon
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    Something for your cube ? http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/SONNET-ENCORE-ST-G4-1G-CUBE-UPGRADE-CPU-TOOL-FAN-SCREW-/200521315531?pt=CPUs&hash=item2eb00074cb

    I bought my Sonnet 1.8ghz from them and their price isn't bad in my opinion.
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    koszer
    Posts: 1246 from 2004/2/8
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    stephen_robinson,
    Quote:

    got the onboard (wired) network to work on my 450Mhz Apple Cube


    Cool, I thought it was impossible. This means one could actually register MorphOS on a Cube, wow.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Divinity
    Posts: 498 from 2009/9/8
    stephen_robinson,
    Quote:

    Managed to get the MorphOS/MacOSX dual boot to work, bit fiddly, and got the onboard (wired) network to work on my 450Mhz Apple Cube.

    It's what I'm using to write this...


    in MorphOS 2.7 ?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
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    Yes.
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  • Just looking around
    robinson
    Posts: 5 from 2011/9/4
    Hello,

    i have just installed morphos 2.7 on my cube, but i didn't succeed in networking.
    Can someone explain what to do, please ?
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    I was wondering if it would be worth adding the 'G4 Cube, WITH NO SOUND' to the list of the supported models when 2.8 is released?
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2968 from 2003/3/5
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    Quote:

    i have just installed morphos 2.7 on my cube, but i didn't succeed in networking.
    Can someone explain what to do, please ?


    There isn't much you can do. We basically didn't do autonegotiation fixes for Cube, so it might work for some, it might fail for some. After all, this isn't an officially supported machine.
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    I've seen many accelerated Cube's for sale over the past few years. 1.6GHz to 1.8GHz seems to be the fastest speeds and often advertised.

    If the MorphOS Dev. Team finishes other more important work first, they might want to eventually support such models if it is not too difficult to do so, as they should run MorphOS quite nicely. But, I am sure there are features that are higher on their priority list of things to do (like finishing support for the G4 PowerBook). ;-)
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    robinson
    Posts: 5 from 2011/9/4
    Thanks to stephen_robinson and pega-1,

    Owings to their help i succeed in networking on my cube, what a good surprise it's very responsive.
    Hope that there will be an issue for sound in the future.

    Regards.
  • »13.09.11 - 18:43
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  • Just looking around
    robinson
    Posts: 5 from 2011/9/4
    Hello all,

    Any news about the port of morphos 3 ?

    Any chance to have sound supported for the cube ? autherwise i probably sell it.

    Thanks for answer.

    Regards.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    I'm not a developer, but I doubt they'll write USB sound card drivers to be honest, after Mac Minis are 4 times as small, 3 times more powerful, and the onboard sound works..
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    robinson
    Posts: 5 from 2011/9/4
    Ho, i understand... but what a shame morphos runs so well on the cube better than my mac OS X.
    only the sound is missing, i'm not a coder too but is it so difficult to port it ? and to make alive the cube...
  • »09.02.12 - 04:49
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2231 from 2003/2/24
    http://www.morphos.de/hardware.html

    Does list

    Quote:


    USB Audio Streaming USB soundcards, headphones, etc. usbaudio.class (included)



    No I haven't tested it, and I'm not even sure it would make sense with USB1.1 (which is AFAIK all you will get with a Cube).
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Ruud
    Posts: 335 from 2009/2/2
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    AFAIK the lack of isosynchronous transfer support in pciusb.device scuppers any chance of USB sound cards working on the Cube (or any other MorphOS supported mac for that matter).
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