Because Neil has a Peg2 and you want him to make PCMCIAcard drivers ? Or am I missing something again ? Too much splintered info for me I guess.

That said, I still do not know if the PCIdriver for 68k can be used with my powermac so I can connect to my WPA homenetwork ?

[ Edited by Oepabakkes 28.05.2011 - 20:22 ]

> Because Neil has a Peg2 and you want him to make PCMCIAcard drivers ?

The main problem is not that a PCMCIA card driver is missing. Neil's driver already supports PCMCIA cards. What amigadave wants is to get the MorphOS Team to remove the blacklisting of the PCMCIA and original AirPort slots in MorphOS so that Neil's driver can be used with Prism2 cards in original AirPort slot of (non-FW800) PowerMac G4 and in PCMCIA slot of PowerBook G4.

And it's a simple enough request.
Why is the MOS team so dead set against it?

> Why is the MOS team so dead set against it?

Fab mentioned "weird issues":

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=11&topic_id=6042&start=38

...and jacadcaps mentioned "funny problems":

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=11&topic_id=6042&start=42

That's all I know. For better information you'd have to ask them.

The MorphOS team aren't hindering development of an AirPort driver, since I'm not ready to work on it just yet. The first step is to get PCI cards working with WPA on MorphOS. Only when that's done does it make sense to consider supporting the AirPort slot.

The 68k driver only works with PCI cards in a Prometheus (barely) and Amithlon, so a PPC version is needed. BTW, I've discovered that the speed problems older versions of prism2.device have in the Pegasos II is specific to certain models of Prism II card. E.g. my 3Com card has this problem but my NetGear card works fine.

I don't think the Dev Team members are "dead set against it", but many of them may see it as a lower priority and don't want to create new problems in MorphOS2.x for something that they do not see as a high priority, or something that there is no driver ready for the port they would be "Un-Blacklisting" to get it to work.

When Neil is ready to do more work on the driver, maybe the Dev. Team can provide him with a special version of MorphOS2.x that has the PCMCIA slot initialized, so he can do his work and beta testing, and hopefully Neil and the Dev. Team can also find the solution to the strange problems that are experienced when the PCMCIA port is turned on, or initialized, so they can then move that support into the Publicly released next version of MorphOS2.x.

Those are my hopes anyway. That Neil will continue to work on a MorphOS2.x driver and that the Dev. Team will see enough value in using Prism2 compatible Airport cards inside G4 PowerMacs (non FW800 models), and other Prism2 compatible PCMCIA cards in G4 PowerBooks when they are supported.

A driver for the Powerbook would be relatively essential. Who wants to connect their laptop to a Cat5 cable?

I'm even happy to pay few extra bob for that.

ncafferkey,
Quote:

So since you have a Peg2, what else is needed to get things started ? MorphOS ?

Quote:

I have started

Thanks. Tedious work and we wouldn't want to appear ungrateful.

Thanks Neil,

Put me down for a purchase as soon as it is available to make the original Airport cards work in non-FW800 G4 PowerMac's, or two purchases when support for any Prism2 PCMCIA wireless NIC to work in the G4 PowerBook's after MorphOS2.x support is released for them. I also have a PCI>PCMCIA adapter that I could install in my G4 PowerMac, but all my PCI slots are full and I would have to remove something to use it. If MorphOS2.7 will recognize this adapter board, I should be able to use your existing MorphOS Prism2 driver now, is this correct? I just need to locate the adapter and remove a PCI card from my G4 PowerMac to make room to install it, and I could then test it with your latest driver. WEP encryption is okay for testing if the WPA driver is not finished for MorphOS2.x yet. Can the older WEP version of the MorphOS2.x driver still be downloaded from anywhere?

Guys you can rest assured that if the morphos dev team "blacklist" or remove "features" they have a damn good reason.. probably stability as andreas stated.

Well, things are getting started with the PCI-version. My 15 euros are ready for it

[ Edited by Oepabakkes 31.05.2011 - 10:28 ]

> probably stability as andreas stated.

I didn't state anything on this issue (how could I?) but merely quoted Fab and jacadcaps on it. It seems you're still having problems grasping that concept. So no, I don't know what the reason for the blacklisting is and never stated any assumption of my own regarding this.

> I also have a PCI>PCMCIA adapter that I could install in my
> G4 PowerMac [...] If MorphOS2.7 will recognize this adapter
> board, I should be able to use your existing MorphOS Prism2
> driver now, is this correct?

This could maybe answer your question:

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=33862&forum=14#620716

> [...] when support for any Prism2 PCMCIA wireless NIC to work in the
> G4 PowerBook's after MorphOS2.x support is released for them.

Pega-1 showing wireless networking via PCMCIA on a PowerBook G4 two days ago:

http://www.geit.de/images/hm02092011/images/img0037.jpg

@Andreas Wolf:

And it was demonstrated on a WPA encrypted network.

Maybe it is already answered ... but is that Powerbook PCMCIA similar to the PCMCIA in Powermac ?

> is that Powerbook PCMCIA similar to the PCMCIA in Powermac ?

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6042&forum=11&start=44

> it was demonstrated on a WPA encrypted network.

Nice. I think amigadave will like that :-)

What card is in the Powerbook?
http://www.geit.de/images/hm02092011/images/img0037.jpg

It is some kind of card that has an Atheros 5000 compatible chipset inside of it.

I would wait for support to be officially announced for specific cards from the Dev. Team before buying any such cards, as the driver is not finished yet (AFAIK), so you would be safer to wait until all the bugs have been squashed and work on it is complete and announced.

It does not appear that Prism2 compatible cards will be supported for a while longer (if ever).

> It is some kind of card that has an Atheros 5000 compatible chipset inside of it.
> I would wait for support to be officially announced for specific cards from the
> Dev. Team before buying any such cards, as the driver is not finished yet (AFAIK),
> so you would be safer to wait until all the bugs have been squashed and work on
> it is complete and announced.

I guess the following may qualify as such an announcement:

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- Drivers WiFi and integration with the TCP / IP: Altheros5000, Airport. [...]
- Port Cardbus (PCMCIA).
- Drivers Atheros5k (via Cardbus) Airport.
- Layer WPA/WPA2 (wpa_supplicant) in collaboration with AROS.
--------------------
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=http://www.meta-morphos.org/article.php?sid=1145

> It does not appear that Prism2 compatible cards will be supported for a
> while longer (if ever).

Reading "Airport" in the quoted news article seems to imply support for AirPort compatible Prism2 cards. I don't know about Prism2 cards for PCMCIA/CardBus though.

My own Atheros5000 compatible wireless Cardbus NIC should be here in a few days, so I will be ready for the release of MorphOS3.0 when it is done. The first one I ordered was not in stock and the company selling it did not know if/when they would be getting more of them, or I would already have one by now.

Until I see more clarification from a member of the MorphOS Dev. Team, I will remain skeptical about the mention of Airport support that is included in the linked report. Who ever wrote the report may be calling the PCMCIA/Cardbus slot of the G4 PowerBook an "Airport Slot", which it is not.