Prism2 on MorphOS 2.1
  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    osco
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    What card is in the Powerbook?
    http://www.geit.de/images/hm02092011/images/img0037.jpg
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    amigadave
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    It is some kind of card that has an Atheros 5000 compatible chipset inside of it.

    I would wait for support to be officially announced for specific cards from the Dev. Team before buying any such cards, as the driver is not finished yet (AFAIK), so you would be safer to wait until all the bugs have been squashed and work on it is complete and announced.

    It does not appear that Prism2 compatible cards will be supported for a while longer (if ever).
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > It is some kind of card that has an Atheros 5000 compatible chipset inside of it.
    > I would wait for support to be officially announced for specific cards from the
    > Dev. Team before buying any such cards, as the driver is not finished yet (AFAIK),
    > so you would be safer to wait until all the bugs have been squashed and work on
    > it is complete and announced.

    I guess the following may qualify as such an announcement:

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    - Drivers WiFi and integration with the TCP / IP: Altheros5000, Airport. [...]
    - Port Cardbus (PCMCIA).
    - Drivers Atheros5k (via Cardbus) Airport.
    - Layer WPA/WPA2 (wpa_supplicant) in collaboration with AROS.

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    http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fr&tl=en&u=http://www.meta-morphos.org/article.php?sid=1145

    > It does not appear that Prism2 compatible cards will be supported for a
    > while longer (if ever).

    Reading "Airport" in the quoted news article seems to imply support for AirPort compatible Prism2 cards. I don't know about Prism2 cards for PCMCIA/CardBus though.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    amigadave
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    My own Atheros5000 compatible wireless Cardbus NIC should be here in a few days, so I will be ready for the release of MorphOS3.0 when it is done. The first one I ordered was not in stock and the company selling it did not know if/when they would be getting more of them, or I would already have one by now.

    Until I see more clarification from a member of the MorphOS Dev. Team, I will remain skeptical about the mention of Airport support that is included in the linked report. Who ever wrote the report may be calling the PCMCIA/Cardbus slot of the G4 PowerBook an "Airport Slot", which it is not.
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  • »13.11.11 - 21:42
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2972 from 2003/3/5
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    At the moment we're not working on AirPort support.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > At the moment we're not working on AirPort support.

    Thanks for clarification. Am I right in my assumption that future support is planned for both original AirPort and AirPort Extreme?
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > I think it would be much easier to take a Prism2 pci-card to get wireless on the Powermac.

    No Prism2, but Fab's Alchimie slides mention "Pilotes WIFI Atheros 5k (carte PCI)" in green colour on page 4, i.e. to be available with MorphOS 3.0.
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    >WIFI Atheros 5k

    Atheros AR5K?
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > Atheros AR5K?

    As Atheros 5k support in MorphOS 3.0 comes from AROS you may refer to this list for supported/tested chipsets/cards for PCI:

    http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Aros/Platforms/x86_Network_support#atheros5000.device_PCI_54mbit.2Fs
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    The AROS supported list is for PCI CARDS :(
    Do any have a pcmcia card list?
    PowerBook is almost ready I hope

    Thanks in advance.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    Update:

    >> At the moment we're not working on AirPort support.

    > Thanks for clarification. Am I right in my assumption that future support
    > is planned for both original AirPort and AirPort Extreme?

    Regarding support for AirPort Extreme:

    "it may be that this will be looked into in the future."
    http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=696362
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    amigadave
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    quoted from a post Piru wrote in an A.org post that is linked to above:

    Quote:

    At least for the moment this does not include the built-in WLAN (airport). Of course having support for the built-in WLAN would be the optimum solution, and it may be that this will be looked into in the future.


    So from that statement I would assume that no work has been done and probably not even started on, for supporting the built-in AirPort Extreme in the G4 PowerBook's that are supported, and IIRC, the AirPort Extreme is also used inside the G4 MacMini models. I think that most of the G4 PowerMac's used the regular AirPort cards, not the AirPort Extreme, except maybe the FW800 model, which might have used the AirPort Extreme.

    Since the regular Airport cards use a Prism2 compatible chipset, I have been hopeful that the regular AirPort card in my dual 1.25GHz G4 PowerMac could be supported by a MorphOS driver some time in the future, but the Prism2 driver that works on wireless PCMCIA cards for A1200's & A600's might not be easy to port to the Mac's regular PCMCIA AirPort card in a G4 PowerMac, which Apple made with a different pin layout electrically than a regular PCMCIA card, even though they both use the same socket type.

    Having the AirPort Extreme that is inside the G4 PowerBook's and AFAIK also inside the G4 MacMini's supported by MorphOS3.x would be a very good use of programming resources.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > Since the regular Airport cards use a Prism2 compatible chipset, I
    > have been hopeful that the regular AirPort card in my dual 1.25GHz G4
    > PowerMac could be supported by a MorphOS driver some time in the
    > future, but the Prism2 driver that works on wireless PCMCIA cards for
    > A1200's & A600's might not be easy to port to the Mac's regular
    > PCMCIA AirPort card in a G4 PowerMac, which Apple made with a
    > different pin layout electrically than a regular PCMCIA card, even
    > though they both use the same socket type.

    Regarding the existing Prism2 driver, its author wrote:

    "In theory you should be able to use the native MorphOS version of prism2.device 1.x (the WEP-only version) [...]. MorphOS probably doesn't have a card.resource for the Powerbooks' PCMCIA/CardBus slot, but if it did you could perhaps use the 68k WPA prism2.device."
    http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=696038

    Interestingly, the MorphOS 3.0 release notes read:

    "Fixed to map Cardbus units of PowerMac and PowerBook computers."
    http://www.morphos-team.net/releasenotes/3.0

    Maybe this amounts to something? Although I believe it still lacks the required card.resource.
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  • Butterfly
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    Andreas_Wolf,

    Quote:

    Regarding the existing Prism2 driver, its author wrote:

    "In theory you should be able to use the native MorphOS version of prism2.device 1.x (the WEP-only version) [...]. MorphOS probably doesn't have a card.resource for the Powerbooks' PCMCIA/CardBus slot, but if it did you could perhaps use the 68k WPA prism2.device."
    http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=696038

    Interestingly, the MorphOS 3.0 release notes read:

    "Fixed to map Cardbus units of PowerMac and PowerBook computers."
    http://www.morphos-team.net/releasenotes/3.0

    Maybe this amounts to something? Although I believe it still lacks the required card.resource.




    yeah, I just tried it... it doesn't work.

    Edit: Fixed quote tags...

    [ Edited by ASiegel 16.06.2012 - 03:40 ]
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12077 from 2003/5/22
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    > What about support for a usb device instead? [...] This would avoid the missing
    > support for pcmcia and be useful on more systems at the same time.

    "I'm currently working on a Poseidon-compatible driver for Realtek RTL8187 devices (this has been in the works for some time, but I've been debugging it in recent days). Once it's stable I hope to port it to the three Amiga-like OSes that use Poseidon for USB."
    http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=35927&forum=25#669547
  • »17.06.12 - 23:57
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