ACK hardware and MorphOS
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    hooligan
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    In a recent chat at irc ACK said:

    ###ACKCONTROLS### Although I will say, it's faster than anything Apple ever produced on the PowerPC side of thiings.


    This sound pretty sweet. Now I know the price is a bit steep, $1500, and I also know the trackrecord of ACK's hardware- and pressreleases... but IF?

    MorphOS could find a home in this now that theres no more a desktop solution for it. Comments?
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    tokai
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    I never expected to see you to get hot all about some unconfirmed hype. Seems the last days full of unexpected news were too much for some of us. ;)


    For now this company (if its one) didn't released anything than some wild announcements which resulted in nothing more than some pointless drooling on amigans.net. I don't see how this is of any relevenace to current MorphOS market... err situation.

    IF this hardware gets released one day and is also properly working according to the announced specifications it's maybe worth considering to discuss the situation.

    But until then just forget about it and even if the day of the release should arrive (I have my doubts here) it should be worry of MorphOS Team only if they want to waste time, money and other ressources to support another nano-market product which probably can't sell more than a few hundred times.

    tokai

    [ Edited by tokai on 2007/5/4 8:48 ]
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    @Tokai

    :lol: and I thought I presented myself conservative enough
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    Genesi has said that the Efika isn't suitable as a desktop machine -- so does that mean MOS has no plans to EVER return to the desktop arena?

    You're right -- to date, ACK has a track record of not delivering -- but there has to be *something* that MOS could be made to run on.
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    Yeah, this is wild dreaming :) But sure, we do need a new motherboard
    for MOS, to get more users!
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    takemehomegrandma
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    @ tokai

    You know, throw in an "r" and your nick will be an anagram of another famous Amiga HW supplier!

    A coincidence? A conspiracy? :-o

    Hmm...

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    SoundSquare
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    so the high end ACK machine is supposed to be the fastest PPC machine, faster than what Apple did with PPC.

    Faster than a powermac G5 quad ? I seriously doubt it.
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    @SoundSquare

    Me too. Not to mention how utterly misfitted a dual dual-core G5 would be in an Amiga context. I'm sure he was talking about what Apple did with the 32-bit PPC line, in a single-CPU context...
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    Quote:


    SoundSquare wrote:
    so the high end ACK machine is supposed to be the fastest PPC machine, faster than what Apple did with PPC.

    Faster than a powermac G5 quad ? I seriously doubt it.


    Talk is cheap is what it comes down to. I'll be happy if they release a stable version of what they plan for their lower end box at $490. I'm not holding my breath though either.
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    Well, how can you take these guys for serious, when you can read...

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    ###ACKCONTROLS### Two ethernet ports cause they were there, one serial for debug...and one for the poor bastards without high speed internet.



    ?

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    Any realistic company wanting to make a product to sell would be better off designing around a processor such as the PA6T 1682M from PA Semi (instead of the hot dual G4).


    Any company that would like to release a desktop-class computer, and make money with it would go for x86, not PPC...

    [ Edited by Leo on 2007/5/5 7:50 ]
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    Quote:


    Leo wrote:
    Quote:


    Any realistic company wanting to make a product to sell would be better off designing around a processor such as the PA6T 1682M from PA Semi (instead of the hot dual G4).


    Any company that would like to release a desktop-class computer, and make money with it would go for x86, not PPC...

    [ Edited by Leo on 2007/5/5 7:50 ]


    And they would be running WindowsXP or Vista on it..
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    Quote:


    Leo wrote:
    Well, how can you take these guys for serious, when you can read...

    Quote:


    ###ACKCONTROLS### Two ethernet ports cause they were there, one serial for debug...and one for the poor bastards without high speed internet.



    ?

    Leo.


    Two ethernet ports and two serial ports...
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    takemehomegrandma
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    Regarding the topic of the thread...

    Quote:

    ###ACKCONTROLS### Although I will say, it's faster than anything Apple ever produced on the PowerPC side of thiings.


    Well, it looks like it will be based on a multi-core PA Semi CPU. :-o

    Link to AW.net thread

    Quote:

    [14:25] -ackcontrols- Theer are issues with OS4 for SMP and 64 bit at the present time, but that's not a concern.


    Well, let's see about that...
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    takemehomegrandma wrote:

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    [14:25] -ackcontrols- Theer are issues with OS4 for SMP and 64 bit at the present time, but that's not a concern.


    Well, let's see about that...


    I'm sure I saw comments written somewhere about these processors being able to run in legacy 32 bit mode..
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    Van_M
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    Guys, do you seriously believe that these specification will ever materialise?!? This so called "company" has only 1 employee responsible for all the "designs", bad track record (failed to deliver both powervixen LT, TL or whatever else, 7448 replacement cpus -->vapor) and bad reputation (according to this post). I mean, c'mon these ppl on amigaworld.net must be reeaallyyyy sad for believing and putting hope on announcements like that.
    Best case scenario: The "High - End Amiga" will be nothing else but a rebranded P.A. Semi evaluation board .... in a genuine Alan Redhouse fashion! :roll:
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    Van_M wrote:
    will be nothing else but a rebranded P.A. Semi evaluation board ....


    There would be nothing wrong with this if you could buy it for less $$ than an actual PA Semi evaluation board ;-)
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  • »09.05.07 - 03:27
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    Van_M
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    from a technical POV this is exactly the reason why I refer to this case as best case. PA Semi seems to be a far more serious company than MAI was, so their evaluation boards may be more robust, without serious bugs etc.... from an "ethical" POV however, I think there is something wrong with a guy (you might want to call that guy, Alan or Adam, it's up to you) that claims that he is able to go through the collosal task of implementing a whole hardware platform ALONE while he just took a ready-made board slap-sticked a sticker of his "company" and sold it as his work... :-x
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