Shutdown with Pegasos hardware hack
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Raf_MegaByte
    Posts: 430 from 2004/10/10
    From: Nella grande r...
    Carsten Siegner has developed an hardware hack which connected to Pegasos Floppy Port it allows to switch off ATX power supply directly from MorphOS.

    This hack requires modified version of Trackdisk device and a program called Motor_Tool into MOSSYS:C that should be renamed "Shutdown".

    Here the link to HardwareHack PDF

    Here lays Motortool.lha

    Aminet download site of Trackdisk.Device

    Carsten Siegner declines any responsibility for any damage which could occur to Pegasos Hardware using his hardware hack.

    News source: AmigaNews Germany



    [ Edited by Raf_MegaByte on 2006/8/16 5:12 ]

    [ Edited by Raf_MegaByte on 2006/8/16 10:37 ]

    [ Edited by Raf_MegaByte on 2006/8/16 10:46 ]
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  • »16.08.06 - 04:07
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    MarK
    Posts: 641 from 2004/1/25
    From: Prague, The Cz...
    does it work for both pegasos1 and 2???

    thanks and bye, MarK.

    ps: this reminds me good old times of amiga and its hacks :-)
  • »16.08.06 - 05:17
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  • Leo
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    Leo
    Posts: 419 from 2003/8/18
    That's hilarious!

    I mean: the Pegasos hardware allows the machine to be shutdown by software. It already works with Linux... MOS1.5 is supposed to allow it as well: and people now hack the machine just to do what's it's already able to do :)

    What next ? :)
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    hooligan
    Posts: 1948 from 2003/2/23
    From: Lahti, Finland
    Quote:


    What next ? :)



    Bounty for shutdown-feature? :-? :bloons: :bloons: :bloons: :bloons: :bloons: :bloons: :bloons: :bloons:
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  • »16.08.06 - 11:44
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  • MorphOS Developer
    geit
    Posts: 1053 from 2004/9/23
    1. It does not require a modified trackdisk.device.

    2. Next is altivec support by connecting external hardware to the mic input.

    Geit
  • »16.08.06 - 12:53
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
    From: Paris, France
    Quote:

    MOS1.5 is supposed to allow it as well:


    it does.

    yeah this is quite ridiculous.
  • »16.08.06 - 14:22
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 408 from 2004/7/15
    From: Russia, Moscow
    Muahahahaha... :lol: :lol: :lol: 8-)
    I just really have no time... Some really little thing prevents my shutdown command from working. Without any hardware hacks...
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
    From: Los Angeles
    Raf

    Although good intentioned, this is NOT the thing to spread to the user base. It is VERY Dangerous and VERY Hacky (in a bad way) People could effectively kill their boards, and these boards are exotic. Morphos "1.5" has shutdown built into kernel, and a shutdown for 1.4.5 could be done realitvly easily. Maybe the guys who can do it will do so after they see desperate threads like this...
    :-(

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  • »17.08.06 - 05:51
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    judas
    Posts: 175 from 2005/1/14
    From: core of universe
    I think, the hardwarehackis great.
    It is a solution for now... Maybe, 1.5 will bring this feature some day, but today, there's no solution, that works.
    ( I'm tired of hearing all the features of 1.5 or the 1.3 firmware.. I have no chance to get it rigth now.)

    And if there is a solution available, you can still use the hardware for different actions ..
  • »17.08.06 - 05:53
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Jupp3
    Posts: 1193 from 2003/2/24
    From: Helsinki, Finland
    Well, at least you can now do something useful with the floppy port :-)

    (floppies themselves haven't been useful in about a decade... Except for "retro stuff", which won't work with "normal" floppy interface anyway)
  • »17.08.06 - 07:20
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    amiades
    Posts: 231 from 2005/6/2
    From: Asturies, Spain
    Quote:

    Although good intentioned, this is NOT the thing to spread to the user base. It is VERY Dangerous and VERY Hacky (in a bad way) People could effectively kill their boards, and these boards are exotic. Morphos "1.5" has shutdown built into kernel, and a shutdown for 1.4.5 could be done realitvly easily. Maybe the guys who can do it will do so after they see desperate threads like this...


    Totally right. But as some hardware hacks, a software solution can come later. When using some PCMCIA cards on A1200, you had to do a hardware-hacked pcmcia reset to get them working, and later came the software that allowed to do that reset... I'm personally not good with soldering and all that, and would not do that HW hack, but I think its a good idea anyway for skilled people who want this feature. Anyway, it was so a so simple solution, that I would never have thought abouy it :P. Nice work.
  • »17.08.06 - 17:48
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Jupp3
    Posts: 1193 from 2003/2/24
    From: Helsinki, Finland
    On a second thought, this does prove, that you CAN do something useful with the obsolete floppy connector / controller.

    Of course, this hack isn't THAT useful, but it kind of proves, that it could be used for something else aswell :-)

    How about a hardware watchdog*, for example? Of course just about ANY hack could also be combined with this one aswell.

    *
    In case you don't know what a watchdog is, it receives a signal from hardware (sent by software) on certain intervals. If it won't get the signal, it assumes that the software has "locked" and resets the device.
    Actually I guess something like this should be relatively easy to do in software outside abox aswell? Easy for "The Higher Beings", not us mere mortals, of course...
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Raf_MegaByte
    Posts: 430 from 2004/10/10
    From: Nella grande r...
    Quote:


    magnetic wrote:
    Raf

    Although good intentioned, this is NOT the thing to spread to the user base. It is VERY Dangerous and VERY Hacky (in a bad way) People could effectively kill their boards, and these boards are exotic.



    To be honest with you and with all I must say that I don't care at all.

    I just reported the news, as an ambassador.

    Hardware hack news it is enough important to deserve to be read.

    To make modifications to hardware it is a matter of people wishes and wills.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2057 from 2003/6/4
    Quote:


    Raf_MegaByte wrote:
    [...]

    To make modifications to hardware it is a matter of people wishes and wills.


    I second that, either you know what you're doing then go on, or you don't and then you won't.

    I like that hack and think about using it. kind of cool idea IMO.
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  • »18.08.06 - 08:38
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  • MorphOS Developer
    CISC
    Posts: 619 from 2005/8/27
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    On a second thought, this does prove, that you CAN do something useful with the obsolete floppy connector / controller.


    Did anyone test to see what happens when you actually have a floppydrive connected though (fireworks, shredded disks, exploding batteries, anything)? ;)

    ..anyway, as mentioned earlier this method of shutdown is unsafe and can lead to loss of data (same as with powerbutton, but without the 3 second delay to change your mind)...


    - CISC

    [ Edited by CISC on 2006/8/18 16:52 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    SoundSquare
    Posts: 1213 from 2004/12/1
    From: Paris, France
    Quote:

    id anyone test to see what happens when you actually have a floppydrive connected though (fireworks, shredded disks, exploding batteries, anything)? ;)


    then you probably shut down the whole house.

    and when a floppy is inserted you can get troubles for having mass destruction weapons at home.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2057 from 2003/6/4
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    .. (same as with powerbutton, but without the 3 second delay to change your mind)...




    if it were only 3s, I guess my maschine takes 5s and about felt 5 mins...

    Anyway, changing mind is for girls but not for 'Teh real man' ;-)
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