I have a Sapphire Radeon 7000 card with 32mb, and it works fine (solved the stability problem which occurred with Voodoo 3) but there are still some issues left.

When I move windows or icons around, I get some occasional artefacts, horizontal lines of 1 to 2 cm length. This is worse with higher resolution or more colors; 1024x768 with 16bit as well as 800x600 with 32bit appear clean, and up from this it gets more and more crappy.
1152x864 with 24bit is almost unbearable.

I found the Voodoo 3 somewhat stable still at 800x600 with 24bit, and someone suggested it might be a slightly busted power regulator on the card. With the Radeon, it appears like the GPU couldn't handle the higher resolutions cleanly.

Has anyone else noticed such behavior? Should I have gotten the Club 3D Radeon 7000VE card instead, or R9000 series, or should I have left ATI alone completely?

@JPQ

Hi!

Just to let you know that I have a Radeon 7000 64MB, Radeon 8500LE 64MB and a Radeon 9200SE. They're all working properly and never got such artefacts.

I think 8500LE will not have 3D support yet, DVI support for 9200SE is working on some models (not mine yet).

Do you plan to use 3D apps?

Fred

@JPQ:

make sure you've installed the card correctly. It must sit 100% perfectly in the AGP slot, else you'll get artefeacts like you described.

I've seen that exact same problem on a completely different computer (PC) with a different OS, a different graphics card in a PCI slot...

Looks like a hardware issue.

I got such gfx errors as well with a SiS305 gfx card. The suggstion by tokai to check if it really fits into the socket was not bad, but in my case it didn't helped sufficently. It happend with resolutions graeter than 1024x768 in 24 Bit. Using several instances of MPlayer at least increased the bug (these horizontal jitter stripes) to the worde behavior as can be seen at http://via.i-networx.de/gfxbug.htm.
At least the only sustainable solution was a purchase of a Club3D ATI 7000 64MB (36€). That one pretty rocks!
I don't know if the socket of the SiS was just crap or if the AGP interface of that card was somehow broken...
IIRC Elena reported similar things with her SiS.

Ah I forgot to mention - I have a Peg1 with April1.

[ Edited by Zylesea on 2004/7/1 13:48 ]

Old thread but i am JPQ (i cannot login i forgot my password,and my email changed etc) but problem is still here even boothing with MorphOS3.7 CD. We looked yesterday card postioning its place problem is still here. How likely i have cr*p card?

I forgotted say BirdieShoot graphics never has such artefacts!. I know dont use 1280x1024 resolution i think but graphics is i think much more complex than one window updating in AMbient screen where there is few windows on top.(What dont completely cover updating window which means for example Shell where i copy files...).

Just get a better card, any other supported card is better than r7000. I've tried dozen of different Radeons in Peg1 and the only r7000 card I tried was nothing but problems and slowness, they just are crap. 7500 is muuuch better and 8500/9000/9100/92xx etc even better.

> any other supported card is better than r7000.

I'd prefer Radeon 7000 to Voodoo 3 anytime :-)

> 7500 is muuuch better

Yes, but still to be avoided as not supported by TinyGL anymore.

> and 8500/9000/9100/92xx etc even better.

Absolutely.

Now i only need list what AmigaOS4.1 and MorphOS1.45 and 3.7 supports all ? Voodoo 3 what i tested
crashed all of time when i use one gadget type which is called i think Scrollbar. its often browsers rightside.

See www.morphos-team.net for supports gfx cards for 3.7. MorphOS 1.4 supports up to Radeon 9250 but it is so old there is no reason to use it anymore. MorphOS 3.7 lets you have the latest OWB for example.

There is reason use 1.4.5: One simple thing now which changes soon i can: MONEY

PCI cards should work fine?

I so geek i finally solved this Monitor tooltypes there is setting PACKED24=NO
i changed it PACKED24=YES. and rebooted problem is finally gone.
btw i should get soon better card use it.

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Well.. I might take Voodoo 3 rather, it's faster than R7000 at least, unless some other feature will become an obstacle :)

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Dont buy OS4 and you have money to buy MorphOS

>> I'd prefer Radeon 7000 to Voodoo 3 anytime :-)

> I might take Voodoo 3 rather

...and have only quarter (or half at best) the VRAM? I couldn't live with 16 MB VRAM. 32 is only just bearable and 64 is what I have now and am quite fine with.

> it's faster than R7000

From hardware specs alone, Radeon 7000 should be faster than Voodoo 3. If it's the other way round on MorphOS, this would indicate excellent driver support for Voodoo 3 and/or lousy driver support for Radeon 7000.

@Vanhapolle,

I have just looked at amigakit for amigaos 4.1, it is 125.72 euros for the pegasos edition, and do not forget shipping costs, http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=amigaos+4.1. Whereas the cost of morphos 3.x is 79 euros for old compatible computers as pegasos 1 and 2, www.morphos-team.net/faq section 'how much doe it cost ?'.

Brumiga

Brumiga: i have own personal reasons why i do this. but i still try get also lates working mos for Pegasos 2 in next year.

Voodoo3 crashed manyh times in my machine. Not i wait one Radeon i dont remember exact model but i know should work.

Only problem with Packet24 what i currently found preview in mrophos skin selection shows black with this. is not huge problem when i can test skins anyway and mainly going use one of them.(i dont know even now what i finally choice use some has problem some pragram shows some menus with white text with white background actually one of bests i think). I tell more when i know more and maybe i dont even need this after i get better graphics card verylikely soon.

Packed24 tip dont work anymore with 3.7 Ambient icons text messed with it. I hope new better Radeon arrives soon to me. And i dont need this kind tricks anymore.

Now i have 128megabytes Radeon 9250 problem is gone. Hard wait time when i have money for MOS3.7 and more memory i think its this year last month.