Hi,

I just like to inform everyone here about the
way my Peg2 G4 1000Mhz just died.

Today i was working on my new website,
creating graphics, using programs like FxPaint
and PPaint, ImageFX4, and CED, and more..

I noticed my peg automaticly switched off
power a few times, so i turned the power
switch off, checked all wires, and waited a
hour, and tried to start again.

This happend a few times, and also while
working in Linux/Debian.

At certain point, i rechecked everything again,
and tried to start again. I press power and
i see some light on the cpu card, when i watched
closer, i could see flames comming from my cpu
card, i switched off power as fast as i can,
and i realise my peg2 just died. I smell the sent
of burning material and i got very very sad...

How could this happen, i use my peg dayly,
and because i can't walk because of a accident
this week, i use my peg a little more then usual.

I'm going to call my Amiga dealer tomorrow, and
hope he can help me get my peg2 alive again.

So mabe the message to you all is, when your
peg powers itself off, don't try to put it back
on, but go to your amiga specialist or such.

Luckely i have this sucking laptop with windblows
to inform you about this..

Bye,
Felix.

Did the smell come from the CPU card or the Peg itself ? This is indeed kinda worrying :( Before turning off automatically, was you CPU card well inserted ? Did you do something particular to it ?

BTW, I hope it'll get fixed soon

I'm sorry to hear that!

It should be covered though warranty though, provided that you did no alterations to it.

Bad luck, Felix (Accident and Peg loss, alli one week). I feel sorry for you...

But if you really saw a little lightning and flames this must be serious voltage which came into your Peg. Such serious voltage that I can only imagine the psu was faulty. Anyway I hope it's possible to recover it somehow. And it's important to discover what the source of this fault has been to avoid other Peg useers from that same desaster.

Tnx for the reply's all,

I haven't changed anything on my peg
last couple of weeks, so it's very strange
that today he automaticly powers off,
and eventualy caught fire on the cpu
board.

Tomorrow my Amiga dealer should be
open, so i will give him a call about it,
and i will keep you all posted on the
situation.

Bye,
Felix. (Sucking laptop .. grrrr :)

Hello Zylesea,

I had exactly the same problem 3 months ago... :(
I did not find why, but I think it is bad contacts with the cpu card and the mainboard...
So please every pegasos owners, be very carefull when you plug the cpu card and clean the contacts !

Myne was repaired by Bplan and know I am waiting for it !

I hope you won't have to wait too much !

Peg4a

@ Peg4a,

Are you saying that you have been waiting for 3 months to get a replacement card from Genesi?

@ Felix,

On the CPU card do you see any of the Capacitor tops being black or smokie? (FYI..Capacitors are the cylinders, uaully blue
with silver tops, that stick up on the boards.) If so it looks like
Genesi is using the cheap korean capacitors that last for 6monts
then blow. Haven't gotten my Peg yet, but if this is the quality of these systems and the service to expect then I may not. :(

Thanks for the warning.
-Sfitz

@ Peg4a

Well that's a bit scary then... I hope we will not see many more of those crashes.

/me when home checking the cpu card

@ sfitzjava

AFAIK the capacitors are of a high quality. GC is just "in love" with hardware too much to allow the use of cheapos.

https://morph.zone/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=373

I made a (very bad) grab of a part from my G4 CPU card, here you can see the burned component.

@ sfitzjava,
You're right I am still waiting for it...
but I think it is because I didn't send it directly to BPlan and they were busy with the new production of pegasos II...

@ Felix,
I am not sure it was the same conponent, but I hope it will be repaired soon !


Peg4a

Hey Felix,

I have had this problem fixing Pc's in the past.
This is most likely a Power supply problem, considering it kept powering down.

Just a few months ago I fixed a customers computer,( now this customer had dust and smoke issues in their house,) only one month later the computer shut down during use. When I got it on the desk and powered it up zzzt!! smoke etc. I should have known that the powersupply had issues. anyways it burned the board, I don't know if the cpu was any good, it was a celeron, so I just thru it out.

on another note I have pulled the cpu card out of my pegII no less then 10 times, I was very carefull to have everything perfect before powerup. Hopefully you will be able to get a new card quickly.

katos1

Think you're right about the PSU, think
thats the problem, only one that would
explain the whole situation.

Oh man.. i miss my pegasos..

Wow that's some picture. The chip is completely smoked.
Well not a capacitor :( Had a DumbTerminal once that blew
a cap and was able to fix it by taking a cap from a 9600bps
modem.

Like one of the other said that looks like a regulator or timer
chip.

What type of PSU do you have? Is it a 60, 100, 300 watt psu?
Oh and is it US or European? (115 vs. 220)
I'm building a system and want to make sure that when I fire it up, that I don't really FIRE it up.

Thanks
-Sfitz

Tell me about it..

And the PSU i use in this tower, was recommended
by my Amiga Dealer. I don't remember the specs.
It worked perfect from the time i had a G3 Peg1,
and months with my G4 peg2.

Quiet same happened to me too. I had a power down twice, then I saw my cpu (G4) burned :( It ran about 1 month.
At least I still had my old pegasos1 board ... I sent it back by post to my dealer, it never arrived :(((

McGreg

Quote:

Today Powersupply are never equals except if you buy PSU from Termaltake, PowerUs etc (aka NON Asian ones). ALL these PSU are not bundled with cases (except thei ones, like wonderfull Thermaltake towers) and costs A LOT of money compared to taiwanese ones.
Anyway Felix I hope that warranty we'll be fast (BBRVVVVVVV, BPLAANNNN!!! )

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This sounds horrible..
And now ? How's your situation now ?

Peg4a,

Who did you send it to, and did they acknowledge receiving it?
Have they explained the reason for such delays. I'm sorry but when hardware fails that could be a sign of a design issue and needs to be address ASAP. Did they not provide a replacement while they worked on it, or just a trade out?

-Sfitz

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Well, in a few days I probably will know more, but it doesn't look very good :(

Any comment about that issue from Genesi/bPlan?

I would think that since you only had it for a few months it should be covered? Since the dealer recomended the PSU they should also cover it right? You need to look into this ASAP.

Genesi what do you say here?

Things do brake. It's tough when it happens though.

I agree that "flames" in this particular case are signs of very high
voltage flowing through the PCB, which looks like a broken PSU to me.
I have a friend that experienced this on his PC too. Two things you
never should be cheap with IMHO - memory and PSU's. But then again,
even expensive, high quality components do brake on some occasions. In
fact, everything brakes sooner or later, it's just a matter of time!


I hope this is covered by warranty (if it indeed *is* the PSU that
caused the failure). If you bought a complete system from your
reseller, then it shouldn't be any problem.

BTW, how can you people expect a comment from Genesi on this
particular case, based only on what have been said here? A comment
about *general* warranty policies is one thing, but how could they
possibly make any public comments about this case without even seeing
the board? And should they? Aren't warranty issues better handled
directly between the parties involved?

Just some thoughts ...