Can G4 systems handle youtube video at 480p? 720p?
  • Just looking around
    rushpat
    Posts: 6 from 2017/2/2
    I had a couple of powermac G4s, running 450 and 533 Mhz. With 3.12/3.13, Youtube playback, even in 480p was a stuttering affair, and out-of-sync audio.

    What G4 speeds could play this at normal 30fps speed? 1.25Ghz? 1.33Ghz? 1.42Ghz? 1.67Ghz?

    Would a PMac G5 or iMac G5 running at least 1.8Ghz do this or even 720p at 30fps?

    I'm wondering if the mac Mini's running at 1.25Ghz could handle 480p on Youtube.

    Thanks!
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  • MorphOS Developer
    zukow
    Posts: 645 from 2005/2/9
    From: Poland
    MacMini G4 1.25Ghz should be ok for 480p.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Doffo
    Posts: 508 from 2010/10/14
    From: Nevada
    Through the web browser? It is painful watching youtube videos on that hardware. Your best bet is to set OWB to play with Mplayer externally. Set OWB to spoof as an Ipad/Ipod and install the youtube scripts to do so. There is a recent thread that explains how to do so. :) This way you can enjoy 480p videos and it not struggle so hard.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1280 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    A PegII/1Ghz can almost do it - 640x360 only in fullscreen mode. But takes nearly 100% CPU-power and sometimes can get asynchrone (Pict/sound).
    Better play these videos with YT and MPLAYER outside OWB. Takes on PEG2 only about 60% CPU-power.
    Can be found here:
    https://www.morphos-storage.net/index.php?page=Network%2FWeb&file=YouTube_URL_Extractor_2.1c.lha

    More than 720x576 is not possible on Peg useing MPLAYER.
    My G5 (1.8GHz/2.0GHz/2.3GHz) are all able to play hires-YT-videos in OWB-fullscreen mode - but NOT in windowed mode (stuttering) - only lowest resolution is possible. OWB needs too much CPU-power to play that in windowed mode
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    koszer
    Posts: 1250 from 2004/2/8
    From: Poland
    PowerMac G5 at 2,7 GHz displays a 720p YouTube video (in Fullscreen mode) with about 65-70% CPU load.
    As seen on TV.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Amigaharry2
    Posts: 1280 from 2010/1/6
    From: EU-Austria (Wien)
    Yes, on my G5/2.3GHz in 720HD, needs also about ~60% load
    Useing YT (MPLAYER) I can play it in 1280x720 without any problems and about 40-50% CPU-load (decreases to after video is loaded complete) - surfing parallel is quite possible....
    Peg2, 3xPowerMac G5, 2xPowerbookG4, 2x MacMiniG4, Efika (again), A3000T and life is never boring.....
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2057 from 2003/6/4
    Quote:

    rushpat schrieb:


    Would a PMac G5 or iMac G5 running at least 1.8Ghz do this or even 720p at 30fps?

    Thanks!


    The iMac G5 (2.1 Ghz) can handle 720p 30Hz pretty well. Not windowed within the browser though.

    I can recommend the G5 iMac pretty much. A good share faster than a mini or powerbook. And not an energy hog like the big box g5s (something between 45W and 90 W including the display). That´s similar a mini based setup - idling the G5 consumes less, full load more (additional display with the mini taken into account). Cooler noise is moderate, display pretty high quality.

    [ Editiert durch Zylesea 23.03.2020 - 22:52 ]
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 732 from 2003/2/24
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    480p is ok on MPlayer, sometimes even 720p depending on the bitrate. I did a pair of scripts to send videos from Odissey to my rpi with Kodi using curl, I guess I should have looked for url extractors first to save time. Unfortunately it looks like Youtube has changed the API and Kodi's youtube plugin is no longer working correctly on my rpi. I can share it if there's people interested, it's nothing fancy.

    It's sad to read that Jaca is not interested on adding media playing support to his new browser.

    [ Edited by Crumb 24.03.2020 - 14:33 ]
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  • ASiegel
    Posts: 1376 from 2003/2/15
    From: Central Europe
    @Crumb

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    It's sad to read that Jaca is not interested on adding media playing support to his new browser.


    You can still use Odyssey for HTML5 audio and video. The main attraction of a new browser is to quickly offer functionality that is currently lacking in Odyssey due to an outdated JSCore version (our rendering part is still quite decent).

    If you can, say, use text chat via Skype in the new browser while streaming music via Odyssey at the same time, that is not a bad scenario for end users.

    Writing a new web browser from scratch is extremely time-consuming. Odyssey will continue to be useful for a while.

    There was a time when MorphOS did not have any proper web browsers. Having two is more a luxury than a problem :)
  • »24.03.20 - 15:38
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  • Caterpillar
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    peg4a
    Posts: 26 from 2003/4/15
    Hi,
    You could use htttps://invidio.us to watch videos, it is lighter than youtube. In full screen no problem for 720p videos on imac G5 :)
    Powermac G5
    2,3 giga mono processor. HDD : 750 Go sata ATI 9800 XT 256 mo.
    Morphos 3.4 ;)
  • »24.03.20 - 15:41
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