MorphOS on AmigaOne X5000?
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Spectre660
    Posts: 220 from 2015/6/30
    X500/20 Amiga OS 4.1FE

    "New engine" R9-270X and "Old engine" Warp3D SI

    Vertex 1600x1200 = 120.2 FPS
    Vertex 1280x1024 = 131.0 FPS

    Lightmap 1600x1200 = 95.6FPS

    Hope to have some "Even Newer Engine" Polaris and "New Engine" Warp3D Nova results soon.

    Interesting comments for Gl4es coder pitSeb

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    Until (if?) GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE is handled by the hardware, using CPU to convert the data will introduce a slow down. As you see, the more HiRes (so more pressure on GPU, less on CPU), the less speed difference, so CPU used for Data conversion count here.
    Also, minigl is, I guess, made for Quake3 in mind and is probably heavily optimize for this engine. I don't it's completly fair to expect gl4es to be faster here (even when GL_UNSIGNED_BYTE handled by hardware).
    What gl4es will bring is more function, and faster speed when using advanced OpenGL functions (like TexGen or shaders), I don't think you'll see any speed advange of gl4es will using idTech3 based games, or simple game with low geometry and no complex opengl renderer.
    Remember Neverball is much faster with gl4es (and this one use TexGen).
    You may see also benefit from gl4es on SeriousEngine or maybe TORCS also (or SpeedDream too). Foobillard++ also should works better on gl4es (if it even works with minigl).


    Kas1e's Initial results :

    640x480

    q3_minigl_sdl1: 90.8 fps
    q3_minigl_sdl2: 86 fps
    q3_gl4es_sdl1: 74 fps

    800x600

    q3_minigl_sdl1: 87.5 fps
    q3_minigl_sdl2: 83.1 fps
    q3_gl4es_sdl1: 72.2 fps

    1024x768

    q3_minigl_sdl1: 82.2 fps
    q3_minigl_sdl2: 76.9 fps
    q3_gl4es_sdl1: 68.5 fps

    1600x1200

    q3_minigl_sdl1: 67.5 fps
    q3_minigl_sdl2: 68.9 fps
    q3_gl4es_sdl1: 60.2 fps

    [ Edited by Spectre660 29.08.2018 - 09:16 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Zylesea
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    ASiegel schrieb:

    Sure, if money is no concern, then buying a brand new Porsche engine is trivial. When you are rich, life is easy. If, however, your budget is restricted, that is a different story altogether.


    Plus, using the old existing kit for a task that it can handle just as well is way more eco friendly. I mean the ecological footprint of a gfx card may not be the highest, but still producing new kit consumes additional resources while keeping the old kit running, uses the already consumes recurces more intensively (of course if the new kit consumes significantly less energy the calculation may be different though)...
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Spectre660
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    Quote:

    Zylesea wrote:
    Quote:

    ASiegel schrieb:

    Sure, if money is no concern, then buying a brand new Porsche engine is trivial. When you are rich, life is easy. If, however, your budget is restricted, that is a different story altogether.


    Plus, using the old existing kit for a task that it can handle just as well is way more eco friendly. I mean the ecological footprint of a gfx card may not be the highest, but still producing new kit consumes additional resources while keeping the old kit running, uses the already consumes recurces more intensively (of course if the new kit consumes significantly less energy the calculation may be different though)...



    9600 PRO : TDP= 18W
    X1950 PRO : TDP= 66W

    HD6450 : TDP= 18W
    HD5450 : TDP= 19W
    HD4670 : TDP= 59W
    HD6570 : TDP= 60W

    RX 550 : TDP= 50W
    HD 7750 : TDP= 55W
    R7-250X : TDP= 65W
    RX 560 : TDP= 75W
    R9-270X : TDP=180W

    [ Edited by Spectre660 29.08.2018 - 11:31 ]
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4744 from 2009/1/28
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    Quote:

    Spectre660 wrote:
    Quote:

    Zylesea wrote:
    Quote:

    ASiegel schrieb:

    Sure, if money is no concern, then buying a brand new Porsche engine is trivial. When you are rich, life is easy. If, however, your budget is restricted, that is a different story altogether.


    Plus, using the old existing kit for a task that it can handle just as well is way more eco friendly. I mean the ecological footprint of a gfx card may not be the highest, but still producing new kit consumes additional resources while keeping the old kit running, uses the already consumes recurces more intensively (of course if the new kit consumes significantly less energy the calculation may be different though)...



    9600 PRO : TDP= 18W
    X1950 PRO : TDP= 66W

    HD6450 : TDP= 18W
    HD5450 : TDP= 19W
    HD4670 : TDP= 59W
    HD6570 : TDP= 60W

    RX 550 : TDP= 50W
    HD 7750 : TDP= 55W
    R7-250X : TDP= 65W
    RX 560 : TDP= 75W
    R9-270X : TDP=180W


    Interesting, no power draw figures for the R7 240, but I'd expect that to be in line with the other low end cards.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Spectre660
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    @Jim

    R7-240 : TDP = 30W
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Spectre660
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    Any one have any Neverball FPS results ? (Level 1 : Easy)
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  • Jim
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    Spectre660 wrote:
    @Jim

    R7-240 : TDP = 30W


    Higher than I expected.
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  • »29.08.18 - 21:23
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Spectre660
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    Forgot

    R7-250 : TDP =65W
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 10264 from 2003/5/22
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    > X5000/40 boards are due

    Btw, a comment by Trevor made in a recent interview:

    "I've even tested the latest version of MorphOS on my 'AmigaOne X5000/40' beta system."

    But unfortunately no comment as to the result of the test ;-)

    And, while not news, mentioned in the same interview:

    "MorphOS developer, Mark Olsen [...] updated the uboot firmware for the 'AmigaOne X5000 models and is working on other drivers for A-EON."

    And also:

    "If users don't buy the upgrades that Hyperion Entertainment release there will be no funds to continue developing the core AmigaOS 4 assets. Same goes for MorphOS of course."

    The MorphOS team might object to that notion :-) At least I can't remember having bought any MorphOS upgrade since MorphOS 2.0.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Zylesea
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    Andreas_Wolf schrieb:


    "If users don't buy the upgrades that Hyperion Entertainment release there will be no funds to continue developing the core AmigaOS 4 assets. Same goes for MorphOS of course."

    The MorphOS team might object to that notion :-) At least I can't remember having bought any MorphOS upgrade since MorphOS 2.0.



    Probably it's even worse: if ppl don't buy Hyperions upgrades MorphOS is halted!!! OMG!
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  • Caterpillar
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    outrun1978
    Posts: 22 from 2018/7/8
    The only reality as far as many a current X5000 user is concerned is that until we see an update to MorphOS supporting the current set of Southern Islands cards, you probably won't see many more new MorphOS subscriptions for this machine.

    Fingers crossed it arrives soon :-) and when it happens then it is Win Win for both the user and the MorphOS team.... ;-)
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    TrevorDick
    Posts: 127 from 2005/10/12
    From: Wellington
    Apologies for the "Freudian" slip. Of course that is meant to be A-EON Technology. I would blame auto-spelling but I think it was a complete mistype!;-)

    A belated Happy New Year anyway.

    TrevorD
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