So what now, u gonna cry and hate MorphOS as there is a one thing not gonna hapen in 3.0? Grow up guys.

EDIT: MorphOS 3.0 is gonna be a big step forward, I mean a big one as it's going to support laptops. Let's be patient to get more and more features comming over in next releases.

[ Edited by pampers 19.05.2012 - 15:07 ]

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Looking at that Ice Cave Exploration video... Man, that's crazy! Claustrophobia warning towards the end, especially when you think about they have actually caved in! But cool! And very nice foto!

> there is a one thing not gonna hapen in 3.0

Not just one thing I'm afraid.

> it's going to support laptops

I guess that's why some people view WiFi support as being essential.

MorphOS was shown with wifi and it works, but it is not ready for the normal user. It was always said that featured may be droped for release, if the quality is not matching our own standard.

If you want wireless support with MorphOS 3.0 you will need something like this

http://www.google.de/products/catalog?hl=de&q=asus+WL-330gE&gbv=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=8319709832073988044&output=nojs

It allows to use any normal LAN port on any device in a wireless network without any driver

There is also a newer version which also supports 3G in the same way.

Both versions also can act as wifi extender and access point, so it won´t be useless when wifi finaly gets part of MorphOS 3.x. I acually have two of them in use and they are great, small and usb powered if needed.

Geit

[ Edited by geit 19.05.2012 - 17:58 ]

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I wrote "There will probably be some experimental wireless support"...
Probably doesn't mean 100% sure... :-| And, indeed, it will not happen in the upcoming 3.0 version.

@Geit

You might remember that I own the 3G-Version and that we both failed to make it connect under MorphOS last year in Bad Bramstedt (worked fine under OSX).

Haven't tested eversince but just a small warning for anybody considering a purchase.

So what now?

EDIT: a quick reminder, Grunch and Magic Beacon are standalone apps so can be downloaded separately.

[ Edited by pampers 20.05.2012 - 07:44 ]

> Grunch and Magic Beacon are standalone apps so can be downloaded
> separately.

True, and I suspect most people who want to use those programs wouldn't mind downloading and installing them. It's just that some people hoped that having Grunch integrated would "yield sufficient support for filling its database".

reg Wireless this is what i use on my win 2000 laptop and sony TV no drivers required:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Netgear-Universal-Wifi-Internet-Adapter/dp/B003VIWJYI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337516905&sr=8-1

I would expect it would work in MOS3.0 but it does need power so i am not sure if the usb ports on the powerbook will cope with it.
There is a power adaptor if required but of course that makes it less portable

pampers,
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"Now we Play the waiting game.....

...Oh the waiting game suck, let's play Hungry Hungry Hippos."

pampers,
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Laptops that have to be tethered to LAN connection, without 3D acceleration, & CPU throttling/fan controls?
Nothing there I need.
I'll stick with my Power mac for right now.

Maybe later.

Well, that's what happens when you rush release it...


err..

Actually, CPU speed & fan controls are in place. The PowerBooks run really cool.

trotter,
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Thanks for that link and idea. I found a refurbished unit just like the one you linked to for just $19.99 with free shipping at NewEgg.com and I had a $10 off coupon from a previous purchase, so even after the tax amount, it will be shipped to my front door in a couple of days at a total purchase price of less than $12.

I will let you know if it works under MorphOS2.7 and MorphOS3.0 beta, but don't see why it would not, as MorphOS should think it is connected to any other Ethernet LAN cable while using this device.

What I am unsure of is how you configure this device to connect to your WLAN setup in your house, or anywhere else you try to connect this device to any WLAN. I will find out when it arrives, hopefully tomorrow, or the next day.

For added portability, I am also looking for a battery powered device that provides a USB port, because the USB ports on the G4 PowerBook's do not provide enough 5 volt amperage to run any kind of external devices (remember that when you try to run an external USB hard drive, as they will not work when plugged directly into the G4 PowerBook's USB ports and you will need to use a powered USB hub, to connect your external USB hard drives to a G4 PowerBook).

This is a messed up way of trying to get real portability with wireless networking while running MorphOS3.0 on a G4 PowerBook, but until support for my NetGear WG511T wireless CardBus NIC, or any Atheros 5000 compatible CardBus wireless NIC is perfected within MorphOS3.x and released to us, this other strange solution will have to satisfy my wireless needs.

jacadcaps,
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I am glad that the G4 PowerBook's run cool under MorphOS3.0, as mine get too hot, too often, when running MacOSX and the only fan control software I have found and downloaded so far to use on my G4 PowerBook's, is not installing correctly, so I can't run it and must look for something else that will start running my fans at a lower temperature, and keep them running at an acceptable temperature.

Thanks for all of your work on the 3.0 version. We are all looking forward to it's eventual release, when ever it happens.

> What I am unsure of is how you configure this device to connect to
> your WLAN setup in your house, or anywhere else you try to connect
> this device to any WLAN.

Configuration is done via web browser.

jacadcaps,
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Thanks, after the announcement that we weren't getting wireless support yet this is good news.
Along with Kronos' slip about multi-touch ability, I guess the release will have a fair amount of polish.

And, as I'm looking forward to SATA support for Power macs, there will be some things in 3.0 for me.

Sorry for sounding critical.
I assume that eventually the wireless issues can be worked out (either on native hardware or by using a 3rd party device.

>> CPU speed & fan controls are in place.

> after the announcement that we weren't getting wireless support
> yet this is good news.

At least the information that CPU speed control will be in was given already several weeks before the information that WiFi support is out :-)

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=8338&start=90

"For added portability, I am also looking for a battery powered device that provides a USB port, because the USB ports on the G4 PowerBook's do not provide enough 5 volt amperage to run any kind of external devices (remember that when you try to run an external USB hard drive, as they will not work when plugged directly into the G4 PowerBook's USB ports and you will need to use a powered USB hub, to connect your external USB hard drives to a G4 PowerBook). "

If the irony is not too much for you an old x86 laptop with a usbport could power the netgear
My old x30 2003? 1.2ghz has one usb port which could probably do it. Its too slow now to be ofmuch use now i have a S/H x61
It might work just sat on the boot select menu saving power without the os being loaded.

Just thought I'd mention that the MorphOS3.0 CD doesn't boot on the last model 12" iBook, stay on the Open firmwear white screen.

I was hoping for something like the Mac Cube not officially supported, but would still boot if prodded a bit.

Oh, well, Can't say I wasn't warned.


edited to add the rather important 'n't' to the last sentance!

[ Edited by stephen_robinson 09.06.2012 - 16:27 ]

> the MorphOS3.0 CD doesn't boot on the last model 12" iBook,
> stay on the Open firmwear white screen. I was hoping for
> something like the Mac Cube not officially supported, but
> would still boot if prodded a bit.

Even if the mid-2005 iBook G4 had been whitelisted, what use would it have been without keyboard support?

TheMagicM,
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No, there is no wifi support in 3.0 at all.

Geit

You could attach a USB keyboard.

Okey, not in an stretch ideal, but not unusable. It would rather make it un-portable.

something something, Powerbooks without wifi is chained to the desk as well.

stephen_robinson,

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The missing ADB keyboard/pad driver is not a real issue anymore, it's basically ready.

We actually might consider Ibook support in a future update. It pretty much depends on the success/acceptance of the PowerBook option.
The forthcoming update will definitely focus on fixing bugs that went unnoticed while doing our internal testing, though. So expanding hardware support is something that is considered after that ...

Well I wasn't expecting that, And I was all ready to put my iBook on eBay as well!