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> Emulating standard Book-E/PowerISA FPU on e500v2 might be hard (or impossible
> even?) as this is not simply about missing instructions here but about instruction
> overlappings, i.e. same instructions doing different things on different cores. This
> seems similar to m68k vs. ColdFire. For an exhaustive and detailed comparison of
> the programming models of e500v2 vs. e600, refer to:
> http://www.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/app_note/AN3531.pdf
> Btw, even the (ex-)maintainer of Debian for PowerPCSPE calls it a "braindead FPU
> design":
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2012/05/msg00025.html

To the point:

http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/219881.shtml
http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/220016.shtml

Update:

> http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/219881.shtml
> http://moobunny.dreamhosters.com/cgi/mbmessage.pl/amiga/220016.shtml

"As we have the prototype boards in our hands we have been actively working on booting a basic kernel on the PowerPC core and interfacing the board to the Amiga bus. Parallel we are starting the software development side of things, with WarpOS support being worked on - as well as first contact with Hyperion regarding AmigaOS4 support. We also keep an eye on feedback from the community and are evaluating the choice made for the P1013 CPU.We knew that the FPU in this processor is incompatible with the ones found on older PowerPC boards. Our original plan to fix these incompatibilities in software turns out to have more impact that we had foreseen. For this reason, we will reconsider the choice of PowerPC CPU, while continuing the development work of other important stuff on the current prototype."
http://eab.abime.net/showpost.php?p=828684
http://www.ultimateppc.nl

Ermm, what sense makes WarpOS being ported to the e500v2 core when they will attempt to redesign the board for a CPU with a different core anyway?

"WarpOS support being worked on" doesn't necessarily mean the porting phase.

Review of the original code, project plan, negotiating money (preliminary work which would be common to any such update/port regardless of the specific target) could fall under such a vague description.

World peace is being worked on... ;)

> "WarpOS support being worked on" doesn't necessarily mean the porting
> phase. Review of the original code, project plan, negotiating money
> (preliminary work which would be common to any such update/port
> regardless of the specific target) could fall under such a vague
> description.

Okay, this might be the case here.
I'm really eager to know which CPU they seek to "replace" the QorIQ P1013 with. As far as I'm aware, the main reasons for going with the P1013 was that it provides USB, SATA, Ethernet and a DIU.
Finding a suitable non-e500v2 Freescale PPC SoC with a DIU will be a problem I'm afraid. The MPC8610 has a DIU but lacks USB, SATA and Ethernet, and the MPC5121e/MPC5123 has all of that but is rather slow compared to the P1013. And while Applied Micro's APM86190 has USB, SATA, Ethernet and an on-chip LCD controller, I don't know the bandwidth (i.e. what resolution at which colour depth and which refresh rate) of the latter.

https://myapmold.apm.com/MyAMCC/jsp/public/productDetail/product_detail.jsp?productID=APM86190
https://myapmold.apm.com/MyAMCC/retrieveDocument/SNP/APM86190_PB_20120216.pdf

Addendum:

> I'm really eager to know which CPU they seek to "replace" the QorIQ P1013
> with. As far as I'm aware, the main reasons for going with the P1013 was that
> it provides USB, SATA, Ethernet and a DIU. Finding a suitable non-e500v2
> Freescale PPC SoC with a DIU will be a problem I'm afraid.

Freshly announced e5500-based QorIQ T1020, T1022, T1040 and previously announced T1042 all show a DIU in their block diagrams:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7001&forum=3&start=746

Apart from that, those SoCs each comes at up to 1.4 GHz clock rate and with 2x SATA2, 2x USB2 and Ethernet ad nauseam.
Sample availability is supposed to start with the T1042 in first half of 2013, which might not be soon enough for the UltimatePPC.

Addendum:

> QorIQ T1020, T1022, T1040 and previously announced T1042 all show a DIU in their
> block diagrams:
> https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7001&forum=3&start=746

Confirmation and more details:

http://www.freescale.com/files/training/doc/dwf/DWF13_AMF_NET_T0232.pdf (page 8)
http://www.freescale.com/files/training/doc/dwf/DWF13_AMF_NET_T1026_Ottawa.pdf (page 9)
http://www.freescale.com/files/training/doc/dwf/DWF13_AMF_NET_T1034_Ottawa.pdf (page 10)
http://www.freescale.com/files/training/doc/dwf/DWF13_QorIQ_Portfolio_SanJose.pdf (page 12)

"DIU supports video at up to 1280x1024x32bpp"
"LCD and HDMI interface (DIU) with 12 bit dual data rate"
http://lists.denx.de/pipermail/u-boot/2013-September/162473.html
https://lists.ozlabs.org/pipermail/linuxppc-dev/2013-September/111231.html


Edit: added more PDF links

[ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 27.11.2013 - 23:37 ]

Official announcement of discontinuation from a week ago, only some years late:

"About 7 years ago Gideon and I reconnected and kicked off this great adventure to build cool new hardware for the Amiga. We vowed to be better than all the other vaporware in the amiga history and create something cool. Unfortunately I failed. At the time of creating the prototype (which stirred a lot of comments on nearly everything) I got a new job that consumed all of my available time and some things happened in my personal life that upset nearly everything. Gideon plowed along on the design and PCBs but I was not able to support him on that, and the software part (my part) stalled, and then stopped. [...] I'm officially declaring the UltimatePPC the best project ever that did not make it past the prototype phase. I'll see what I can and will do with the boards we have, maybe they will go to Folkert for the future Amiga museum. As for all the other work, it might end up in another project someday."
http://www.ultimateppc.nl

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Don't forget to mention SharkPPC and Dragon, anything else?

Those days I bought a second hand Blizzard 1260 with SCSI instead of a Blizzard PPC. Few software were developed and most of them with 68k version. Later 603e I didn't think was enough for the new DVD age.
Recently I've heard about some FPGA cards for Amiga Classic and I think those make more sense than anything else for Classic today. Amiga is only 68k for me while PPC was just like a second FPU. I've never believe in OS4 PPC as well as all those managers selling gadgets. I've never understood why then some of those managers were interested in having a new AmigaOS PPC when I guess they've never spent one penny to fund Phase5 or team with them. There's a saying in my country: only who knows an art can do a company then. For sure I don't know what exactly happened, many software house passed by but that's unbelievable how someone has been always trying to market the Amiga zombie brand!

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Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor


A/box
a3400
A1000+
A2200 (Computer Answers)
A5000 MK1
A5000 MK2 (Power Computing)
A6000 (Power Computing)
AA3000 (Commodore)
AHT STB
Amiga 1400 (Commodore)
Amiga 3000+ (Commodore)
Amiga 4030L Portable (Quickpak)
Amiga 4060L Portable (Quickpak)
Amiga 4040L (Quickpak)
Amiga 4060L (Quickpak)
Amiga 5050T (Quickpak)
Amiga 1630LD (Quickpak)
Amiga ED (Viscorp)
Amiga MCC (Gateway - Amiga Inc)
Amiga MCC 1000
Amiga MCC 1200
Amiga Nyx
AmigaOne 1200
AmigaOne 4000
AmigaONE 1GHz CPU module (ACK)
AmigaONE 1.7GHz CPU module (ACK)
AmigaONE Dual 7410 Cpu Module (eyetech)
AmigaOS 4 Concept Developer System (Gateway - Amiga inc)
AmiJoe
AmiRage K2
Amy05
Apollo ViperPPC
Blizzard2604
BlizzardG3
BlizzardG4
BoXeR
Brainstormer
BSC MemoryMaster 1230
BSC TurboMaster 3050
BuddhaFlash A500
C5300 workstation
C5400 workstation
CD1200 (Commodore Amiga)
CD32 Game System 030 accelerator (Commodore)
CDTV Arcnet controller
CDTV CR
CDTV CR Mpeg card
CDTV2
Coldfire4000 (1)
Commodore 2631
Comspec Arm 1000 (Amiga Rom Module for A1000)
Comspec SA500 (A500 SCSI Expansion Adapter)
CV3D Mpeg card
CyberstormG3
CyberstormG4
daVinci Gfx card
Delfina Flipper - original Zorro/PCI "flipper" board
DKB Talon - Zorro gfx
DKB Inferno - gfx addon for Wildfire
Dragon1200
Dragon4000
eClips
eflash1200
Elbox EM8400 MPEG-2 hardware decoder
Elbox ISDN PCI card
Eureka Afterburner
G-MCC
Gigatron Amiga laptop
GVP A4098
Harms TurboJet 4000
Harms TurboJet 5000
HiQ "Alpha Project"
Hombre
Hurricane
I-MCC
Impulse Multiprocessing system
Inside Out
iPhantom
Kickflash (Individual Computers)
Lepord
M-Box
Martina Sound Card
M.A.S.T Infinity Machine - expansion box for A500 with 030
Melody CDTV soundcard
MicroA1 XC
MicroA1-I
O'Connell 68K™ "classic" Amiga® compatible notebook computer
Panda
ParaGlide
Pegasos I G4 cpu boards
Pegasos I Dual cpu boards
Pegasos II Dual cpu boards
PIOS One
PowerAmiga (Escom)
PowerVixxenLT
PowerVixxenTL
Pre/box
SharkPPC
Siamese PCI
Silicon Studio - Zorro III sound
Sunrize DD-524 - optical I/O for AD-516
TeronPX (AmigaOne)
TransAM
Tsunami
UltraBus USB Zorro Card (Creative Development)
Unnamed A1200 accelerator (ACK 2004)
Unnamed A1200 modular busboard & Accelerator combo (ACK 2004)
Unnamed A500 PPC accelerator + AGA (DCE)
Unnamed Amiga compatible laptop (BoXer developers)
Unnamed Amiga PPC computer (H&P)
Unnamed Supra 040 accelerator for A3000
Unnamed Z-III AGA upgrade card
Unity Zorro PCMCIA slot
Universal Internet Television Interface - UITI (Viscorp)
Unnamed PPC405 based PDA (Amiga Inc)
VideoToaster - PAL version
Wonder TV A6000
Walker

> Help compile giant list of Amiga hardware vapor [...]

Some more since 2011:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=12222&start=240

It was twenty years ago. WUP and PUP with its context switch and cache flush. It is history.
With full os for ppc Amiga ppc works much better than 68k.

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