stephen_robinson,
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Very nice try indeed, Sir!

I have a Powerbook 1.67 (http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g4/specs/powerbook_g4_1.67_15.html)

Not the latest High-Definition one, unfortunately.

Just to confirm:
1) internal wireless (airport) will not be supported by MorphOS 3.0?
2) What exactly do I need to buy?
This one
http://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-235467429-netgear-wirelles-rangemax-pc-card-wpn511-compatible-108-mbps-_JM
will fit?

It says WG511 without the "T" at the end...

needs the "t" i think the driver might not work. BTW it seems like a lot of money.

muffie,
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According to Fab's report of what would be included in MorphOS3.0 and what would not be included in MorphOS3.0, but would be completed for a later version, like MorphOS3.1, or MorphOS3.2, wireless networking of any kind will not be included in MorphOS3.0, but will be completed for a later version of MorphOS.

I for one was really hoping for wireless to be completed with MorphOS3.0, but I understand that it is difficult programming work and specialized technical skills are probably required, so if it is not available until MorphOS3.1 several weeks, or a few months later, that will just be the way it is.

Edit: The card in your link looks like the one I bought which is supposed to be supported eventually, but I have forgotten where I placed mine, so I cannot confirm that it has the exact same numbers on it. I don't think mine had the letters WPN, and instead think that my card has the letters WG(plus a third letter I can't remember)511. You need to check the previous forum posts to make sure of which model numbers are going to be supported and then compare the supported model numbers against the model shown in that link. I need to find my card (which I never got working yet, but I have high hopes that it will work well someday soon).


[ Edited by amigadave 16.05.2012 - 07:16 ]

Thanks.
It's in Brazilian Reais (price) of the Board. It should be ~25 USD.
About wireless support, I have mixed feelings about it. It is taking so long for 3.0 to be released that, I wouldn't really care waiting couple more years to get 3.x with internal wireless support.

It's really hard to complain about the delays, because we all know that coding MorphOS can be everything but a profitable hobby.

But, a public beta release wouldn't hurt. I bet it's not released because developers would have to "see/hear" complains about stuff not working perfectly or requests about "please add this feature". Requests & Complains sounds like a 9-2-5 real job. And professional coding sucks most of the time. Hobbies are supposed to be funny after all! :)

Maybe, if just maybe, they could find a commercial use for the OS, but the commercial/mainstream scene is already too crowded for new entrants.

Imo MorphOS Team proved in past that every release is polished as much as it possible so I wouldn't expect anything like public beta release or releasing unfinished system.

I've solved the problem of wireless networking with TP-Link TL-MR 3020 device. This small box provides WiFi and GPRS/3G network support for MorphOS on PowerBook.

Advantages:

1. It does not require any drivers.
2. Configurable via WWW, Odyssey works great for this.
3. Works not only with PowerBook, but with Mac mini, PowerMac, or anything else. On MorphOS 2.7 too.
4. I get GPRS/3G connecion after connecting my cellphone to it.
5. Case design nicely matches Mac mini or PowerBook stye.
6. Has more functions like WiFi router or sharing 3G connection through WiFi.

Disadvantages:

1. Not contained inside PowerBook (like PCMCIA card), but (small) separate box connected with two cables (Ethernet and USB or external PSU for power).
2. Requires external power (power supply included in the box, but anyway) when working with a cellphone. This is because cellphone starts to charge its battery from USB and this is too much load for one of PowerBook ports. Typical "Y" USB cable (included too) cannot be used with PowerBook because its USB ports are on opposite sides. This problem probably does not happen when using "pendrive like" GPRS/3G modem, as it has no battery to charge.
3. A bit pricey, but 35 euro is not really that much.

well, my tip is to install ssd drive... I bought a miniature ide/sata interface, and halfsize sata ssd disk, well, as there can fit only lowprofile 2.5" drives, this interface had some troubles, but after some 'fitting management' i made it, and now i have a 64 gigs ssd with macosx installed waiting for MOS... :)

bye, MarK.

> internal wireless (airport) will not be supported by MorphOS 3.0?

Yes, at least that's the latest public word on the matter from the MorphOS Team. I'm not aware of any newer statements made to the opposite effect.

> According to Fab's report of what would be included in MorphOS3.0
> and what would not be included in MorphOS3.0 [...], wireless
> networking of any kind will not be included in MorphOS3.0, but will
> be completed for a later version of MorphOS.

So "wireless networking of any kind" excludes wireless networking provided via PCMCIA/CardBus NIC or (for the PowerMac) via PCI NIC? Or has that been postponed to MorphOS 3.1+?

3.0 will not have any wireless support indeed.

> 3.0 will not have any wireless support indeed.

Pity, but thanks for sharing.

jacadcaps,
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You mean internal wireless? Any USB/PCMCIA adapters are(will be) supported?

BTW do you stay close to Brazil's Antarctica Research Station?

I think by any he meant ANY (including PCMCIA devices). Anyway Krashan mentioned a little nice device which can make PowerBook wireless while wating for wifi support.

That looks huge and an overkill solution.
Better to grab a cable from the wireless router for the two years until 3.0.1 is released!

My battery is not holding too much charge anyway.

Krashan,
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The Y cable issue can be easily fixed by using a usb extension cord.

Also, i found this one which is battery powered :

http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL-MR3040

Maybe this has already been suggested, but would something like the EASYNET PCMCIA WIRELESS CARD from AmigaKit work (running under emulation, of course)?

Edit 1: Nevermind -- looks like the wrong form factor for a Powerbook.

Edit 2: Or maybe it would fit -- anyone know more about this?

[ Edited by klesterjr 18.05.2012 - 08:11 ]

I meant what I said: no wireless support.

We were close (+/-10km) to the Brazilian station before it burnt to the ground in February (see http://antar.waw.pl).

:-(

> I meant what I said: no wireless support.

Hmmm -- didn't mean to offend you. Just brainstorming an alternative. Morphos has pretty good 68k compatibility (based on past experience), so I was wondering if a 68k solution might work. I suppose that there would need to be PCcard support built into Morphos.

"I meant what I said: no wireless support."

This means that 3.0 is finalized and should be arriving very very shortly :)

Time soon to rid OS X from my Powerbooks!

The wait is over

jacadcaps,
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What the hell! It seems more time MOS team are taking to finalize the 3.0 less stuff this release will have!! This is absurd, it should be exactly the opposite!
NETGEAR WG511T was confirmed to work and to be the only wireless solution ready for the 3.0. Now we will neither have it!

Ok, now kill me because I am not positive and gentle..

We did show PowerBooks with external cardbus wireless solutions, but if you were made to believe it'd be part of a release, it was done in an error - perhaps a misinterpretation by someone.

> if you were made to believe it'd be part of a release, it was done
> in an error - perhaps a misinterpretation by someone.

This would have been misinterpretations by both your team colleagues Henes and Fab then:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=8022&start=46
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=9&topic_id=8121&start=27 (all in green: "Pilotes WIFI et intégration à la couche TCP/IP : Atheros5000", "Port Cardbus (PCMCIA)", "Pilotes WIFI : Atheros5k (via Cardbus)", "Couche WPA/WPA2 (wpa_supplicant) en collaboration avec AROS", "Pilotes WIFI Atheros 5k (carte PCI)")

Well, jacadcaps,
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Okey it may not be part of 3.0, but will it be available at the same time from, errr whatever 3rd party that produced it?