G5 PowerMac videocard with MorphOS?
  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > which ROM should be used and where can it be found?

    That comment (#44) has a link to one.
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  • Caterpillar
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    Krisz
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    Lord76 wrote:
    This works under MorphOS, very Silent and Fast Card
    HIS Radeon X1950 Pro ICE Q3 Turbo 256 MB GDDR3 (256-bit) 2x Dual Link DVI
    http://www.hisdigital.com/de/product2-77.shtml
    &
    Sapphire Radeon X1950 Pro 265mb
    https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/sapphire-x1950-pro.b7825

    Have testet both Cards in G5 11.2 2.3ghz with MorphOS 3.19



    The question is whether it's possible to flash both cards with a Mac BIOS here. If so, which ROM should be used and where can it be found? Ideally, I'd like to remove the second graphics card (Nvidia 6600) as well.

    [ Editiert durch Lord76 11.04.2025 - 11:20 ]



    Thanks for the help

    The Radeon Sapphire x1600 xt I ordered on ebay will arrive in the next few days
    I'd like to get an x1950 card later, but hopefully what I ordered will work and be good for a while.
    Now I want to buy a compatible Wifi card that isn't too expensive.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    NewSense
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    @ Krisz - don't forget that the Airport Extreme (A1027) is also compatible with MorphOS - see PowerMac G5 Quad - page 2 for more info on installing such a card. Hope this information is useful to you. 8-)
    MacMini 1.5GHz,64MB VRAM, PowerBooks A1138/9 (Model 5,8/9),PowerMac G5 2.3GHz(DP), iMac A1145 2.1GHz 20", all with MorphOS v3.18+,Airport,Bluetooth,A1016 Keyboard,T-RB22 Mouse,DVD-RW-DL,MiniMax,Firewire/USB2 & MacOSX 10.4/5
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    koszer
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    Quote:

    Krisz wrote:
    Quote:

    NewSense wrote:
    @ Krisz - don't forget that the Airport Extreme (A1027) is also compatible with MorphOS - see PowerMac G5 Quad - page 2 for more info on installing such a card. Hope this information is useful to you. 8-)



    Thanks

    This is the card in question ?



    Yes. You'd also need a fitting antenna for it (with MCX male plug).
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    @ Krisz - I usually use a mini-antenna connection board that originated from an A1107, but the board from an A1104 or A1010 (Apple part # 922-6074 or 922-5721, that I have previously bought from PowerBookMedic USA, and/or eBay, should be sufficient to connect the Airport card to this board.

    I seem to remember that the PCIe G5 towers have their antennas built-in behind the vertical plastic panel on the back of the tower, and that there are aerial/antenna wires and connectors already attached to the aerial/antenna panel ready for connecting to a Runway card, but these can be adapted to the external aerial connectors as suggested by koszer, or modified to connect to the pre-existing aerial wires inside the PowerMac PCIe models, which I seem to remember is how I did it with the previous tower that I connected up successfully to an Airport Extreme card. You may have noticed that I also mentioned that if you are able to have a Dual-boot Mac OSX system then you can utilise the Bluetooth pairing to use an already paired Bluetooth device with MorphOS, which is what I did with an Apple A1016 keyboard. Most Bluetooth USB dongles that work with Windows XP should allow this functionality. Hope this helps. 8-)
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  • »12.04.25 - 00:50
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    Kronos
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    Yes those are the cables leading to antenna in the back of the G5, but that use a different plug then on the actual AirPort card.

    Options:
    - Get that rare and expensive Runway card which acts like adapter
    - rip out the antenna from an older systems using the "bare" AirPort card
    -- patch them to the existing cables
    -- run the loose antenna to some non shielded place in or outside the G5

    I'll do my testing sometimes next week.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    koszer
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    Quote:

    Kronos wrote:
    Yes those are the cables leading to antenna in the back of the G5, but that use a different plug then on the actual AirPort card.


    As Kronos said, these cables (U.FL female plug) expect you to have an A1127 Airport/Bluetooth combo installed onto a Runway card in your G5. A1127 is easy to get, but Runway is a rarity and it's priced accordingly.

    Hence the suggestion to use a vanilla A1027 AirPort inside this proprietary miniPCI slot of yours and it is guaranteed to work too. But it needs an antenna. You could try finding an adapter with MCX male (plugged into A1027) and U.FL male on the other side (to plug your antenna cable) or use a different antenna/cable (MCX to whatever, just get it out of the "Faraday cage" of your Mac's aluminium casing).

    ...or you could use some PCIe WiFi card that's reported to work (like the one here).
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  • Caterpillar
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    Krisz
    Posts: 40 from 2023/3/22
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    Kronos wrote:
    Yes those are the cables leading to antenna in the back of the G5, but that use a different plug then on the actual AirPort card.

    Options:
    - Get that rare and expensive Runway card which acts like adapter
    - rip out the antenna from an older systems using the "bare" AirPort card
    -- patch them to the existing cables
    -- run the loose antenna to some non shielded place in or outside the G5

    I'll do my testing sometimes next week.



    Thanks

    Then the connector in the Power Mac G4 is suitable for this purpose
    I need to combine the connector in the G4 with the one in the G5

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    However, the G5 has 2 connectors, I think one is for wifi and the other for bluetooth
    The only question is how will I know which one is the wifi connector?
    I guess can check it with a multimeter.
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    Krisz wrote:
    However, the G5 has 2 connectors, I think one is for wifi and the other for bluetooth
    The only question is how will I know which one is the wifi connector?
    I guess can check it with a multimeter.


    a) connect both
    b) connect one, close the case and check if you get a decent connection
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    koszer
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    Quote:

    Kronos wrote:
    a) connect both
    b) connect one, close the case and check if you get a decent connection



    I'm just wondering how Krisz is going to connect the MCX male (from his G4) with U.FL female in his G5. Is he going to cut off both plugs and then join the wires somehow?
  • »12.04.25 - 09:12
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    @koszer

    Sure, why not?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    koszer
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    Kronos wrote:
    @koszer

    Sure, why not?




    I thought that "DIY-hack-the-wire" method would result in massive signal loss, and would be prone to all kinds of interference problems.
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  • Caterpillar
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    Krisz
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    I would connect the two wires not by soldering but by using a crimp connector and insulate the with shrink tubing, so in theory there will be no or minimal signal loss.
    The router will be very close to the computer and so I think the signal strength will be sufficient
    if for some reason it doesn't work then I'll buy a lan card
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    Krisz wrote:


    By the way, what about a video card that comes with a Mac bios from the factory, but the Mac Pro version?




    Been there, tried that.
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    Krisz
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    Kronos wrote:
    Quote:

    Krisz wrote:


    By the way, what about a video card that comes with a Mac bios from the factory, but the Mac Pro version?




    Been there, tried that.


    Thanks
    then the most you can do is reflash the card with the PC bios and if everything is correct then it should work
    I'm just thinking about it because it's very rare when someone sells such an old card in new condition and the price isn't even that high
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    https://www.ebay.com/itm/134545822959?_skw=ati+radeon+x1900&itmmeta=01JRN1MW6VJQM19YP8QCGTGGXC&hash=item1f538e54ef:g:PJsAAOSwBxhkSA7w&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1eKhXkUK2%2FVrHhybjfJW%2Fvz%2BaCrVFIQAgi9bTBuMjRvVmIuoJ09S5Y16wYeIM2PSxFEFMqP73kX1qJ1YU9VAIlPuAODpskT%2B4FUwIW%2FcdpZrxZzRM9J7bdLvfT8Niivj%2BDdSsNjGU744wRYpFgBpfZ7xo%2FSxSJvl7491Hltr9HSXLyfV4m2GifA4gQOx3f019PuG8NHB1QzD7PvAYovOe8pqxwF%2F3HqHiiFzAjwfjTtrQzwpXjP7uUkVjXLzO9c01em8PPPXdBPxdJax8bwQL51rg%2BjyslfdApteyiIAcO%2FSA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBMzMPTocVl
    here an example of card pc can be buy for powermac g5
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    man wrote:
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/134545822959?_skw=ati+radeon+x1900&itmmeta=01JRN1MW6VJQM19YP8QCGTGGXC&hash=item1f538e54ef:g:PJsAAOSwBxhkSA7w&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1eKhXkUK2%2FVrHhybjfJW%2Fvz%2BaCrVFIQAgi9bTBuMjRvVmIuoJ09S5Y16wYeIM2PSxFEFMqP73kX1qJ1YU9VAIlPuAODpskT%2B4FUwIW%2FcdpZrxZzRM9J7bdLvfT8Niivj%2BDdSsNjGU744wRYpFgBpfZ7xo%2FSxSJvl7491Hltr9HSXLyfV4m2GifA4gQOx3f019PuG8NHB1QzD7PvAYovOe8pqxwF%2F3HqHiiFzAjwfjTtrQzwpXjP7uUkVjXLzO9c01em8PPPXdBPxdJax8bwQL51rg%2BjyslfdApteyiIAcO%2FSA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABFBMzMPTocVl
    here an example of card pc can be buy for powermac g5


    Thanks for the link

    This card is too expensive for me with the postage :(
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    check price in France: https://www.leboncoin.fr/ad/accessoires_informatique/2964349396
    :-)
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    beworld wrote:
    check price in France: https://www.leboncoin.fr/ad/accessoires_informatique/2964349396
    :-)


    Thanks
    that wouldn't be expensive but I'm stuck with the registration
    Anyway, it's not that important right now to buy a 1950 card
    I was only thinking about the card on eBay because it's new and the price is low
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