Will 3D support for Radeon 9800 Pro and XT come soon?
  • MorphOS Developer
    cyfm
    Posts: 537 from 2003/4/11
    From: Germany
    stephen_robinson,
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    Good question from Andreas, this ones only seeing half the memory as well? :(



    This is most likely a limitation of the MorphOS 2.7 driver to avoid hardware (mouse)crsr corruption (which only works properly in the first 128mb segment).
    As there was not much to gain by additional 128MB for 9600/9800 cards in 2.7, I limited the address space to 128MB.

    This is the related change in 2.7:

    Devs/Monitors/Radeon
    o Fixed hardware cursor support on some Radeon 9600 and Radeon 9800 cards

    I reworked this some time ago and it should work ok for the next update.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Divinity
    Posts: 498 from 2009/9/8
    Andreas_Wolf,
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    I notice that in the screenshot it says "128 MBytes". Do you know if that's due to the Mac ROM you put on it or due to the card possibly using two separate 128 MiB apertures for the VRAM? How much VRAM does it show in OSX or Linux?


    Frank's answer :-)
    In OSX and Linux there are 256Mb vram available :-)

    If interested in "benchmarks" with this very good card in OSX, look at here (Quake 3 and Quake 4) http://www.nonsoloamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=131 http://www.nonsoloamiga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=136


    [ Edited by Divinity 29.08.2011 - 21:41 ]
  • »29.08.11 - 20:35
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Divinity
    Posts: 498 from 2009/9/8
    pega-1,
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    I reworked this some time ago and it should work ok for the next update.


    :-) :-) :-)
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12225 from 2003/5/22
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    > Frank's answer :-)
    > In OSX and Linux there are 256Mb vram available :-)

    Thanks. So it's not the Mac ROM limiting the VRAM (and also not two apertures according to pega-1).
  • »29.08.11 - 20:51
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    stephen_robinson,

    So, as no-one answered my question... do you remove the resisters* or flash first?

    if you remove the resisters will it boot on a PC for flashing, if not should I flash first?

    or the other way, if it's flashed will it boot on a PC?


    Okey, done it. I flashed first, after I'd flashed there was no display on the PC, (but it seemed to be booting, so I suppose it could have been reflashed from the backup.rom file, if I typed it all in right without anydisplay), then I removed the resisters, which was dead easy, (I'd imagine putting them back on would be horrific!) and it booted up correctly on my dual 533, didn't try it my dual 1.42 as the molex power cables are too short, I'll have to send off for some extenders.

    Anyway:-

    this Youtube video was quite useful:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYQ7xHNkE5c

    But this is the best site for advice:
    http://themacelite.wikidot.com/flasher-s-buying-guide-9800
    http://themacelite.wikidot.com/pins-3-and-11

    the atiflash can be downloaded from
    http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/Utilities/BIOS_Flashing/ATI/

    for a USB bootable stick the HP USB Stick Formatting Tool can be downloaded from
    http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/330/.html

    but it seems to lack the actual dos system files to make it bootable, probably due to copyright issues. so dunno where to find them

    cough cough http://www.bay-wolf.com/usbmemstick.htm cough..

    [ Edited by stephen_robinson 08.09.2011 - 16:26 ]
  • »07.09.11 - 19:13
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    Well got it all working, but blimey the card runs hot, the back (ie the bit without the fan) of the card is unpleasant to touch, I'm putting it down to the room heater of the CPU cooler sitting under the graphics card and the heat rising into the card. I've not even 'Overclocked' the card to the correct speed either.

    I can't under stand how a single core 1.5mHz macMIni can run so cool, but a dual 1.42 with a heatsink larger than the whole MacMini runs like a 1 bar electric heater.

    without the 3d graphics drivers it really doesn't like Lucy! 8-)
  • »11.09.11 - 07:21
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    G5 X800 cards don't work in a G4.
    But I currently have a PC card (R420 based) flashed with Mac BIOS and it works great in my Quicksilver.

    BTW - Hery Frank, any chance of you and Bigfoot resuming work on a driver for the R400s?
    We don't need G5 support to run one.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »12.09.11 - 15:59
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Divinity
    Posts: 498 from 2009/9/8
    Jim,
    Quote:

    G5 X800 cards don't work in a G4.
    But I currently have a PC card (R420 based) flashed with Mac BIOS and it works great in my Quicksilver.


    Interesting, details about Mac ROM used, brand and model AGP card ?
  • »12.09.11 - 21:38
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