> there are cards with 256MB (like the 9600 and 9800). AFAIK these
> cards don't have 3D hardware acceleration on MorphOS. Is it planned
> for the next release though (3.0)?

No, at least according to what has been stated in public so far:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=8121&forum=9&start=21

Regarding the (non-)support of the full 256 MiB VRAM on Radeon 9600/9800 cards in current MorphOS, refer to:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7339&forum=11&start=34

64MB of video ram are more than enough for normal use even with high resolutions. I usually have more than one screen (1280x1024@32bit) opened simultaneously and have never had problems. In this case the 8500 is the fastest gfx board you can have.
If you really need more videoram than look for a 9000 (9200 boards are too slow for my taste) with 128MB or a 9800. This last one has only 2D support for now, but when 3D support will arrive (maybe MorphOS 3.1) will be waaaaaaaay faster than any other board ever seen on any Amiga system until now.

[ Edited by Miky060 06.03.2012 - 13:40 ]

Quote:

But he wrote "high resolutions" !! 1280x1024 is pretty lowres these day and only a bit more than 50% in pixels that can be found on a full-HD screen...

I'm running my Mini in 16Bit cos running out of those 64MB in Full-HD would be far to easy otherwise.
Quicksilver and PB are both on 32Bit but they both have 128MB and a measly 1680x1050 res ....

Have spent some time today on the machine...
1. When the machine boots, the volume gauge is red (muted) by default. Is that because the 3.1 PowerMac onboard sound isn't supported, correct? Note that I have left at the default values the options in System/Sound and AHI.
2. The Mac came with a PCI-to-USB (2 ports), along with the 2 on board ports of USB 1.1. Regretfully the pci-to-usb doesn't look functional when plugging in the mouse, keyboard and/or memory stick. I don't want to resort only on 2 usb ports and I don't want to use a hub. Is any specific pci-2-usb 2.0 card supported by MorphOS and compatible with my machine?. Moreover I made some usb transferring tests: I got around 1MB/s rate from memory stick -> usb 1.1 port.

Since they are low cost items, you might want to invest in a Soundblaster Live sound card and an NEC based USB 2.0 card.
If you look around on Ebay, you should be able to locate both for about $5 each.

If you have trouble finding them, I've got a few extras lying around.

Purchased RTL8139 C based card for my Quicksilver.
Works and is now connected to router.
I still haven't figured out why the built in network connection isn't working.

Friend, thanks for taking the time to answer my questions. I was patiently waiting for someone to assist me on my last question.
As I have written above, I have already bought an RTL pci ethernet and a Soundblaster and the items are en route from the USA to Greece:)
Can you please point me (link me an example on eBay) any NEC usb 2.0 card that should be working with MorphOS? Is there anything specific I should take into account before buying?

Jim,
Quote:

I'll buy one of your extra Soundblaster Live cards from you, if you want to sell one of them. Just send me an email, or PMail with how much you want for it.

Newflash! Just received the Soundblaster and the PCI ethernet. Connected both. Tested the sound and it seems to work! However I am facing trouble with the network. The physical link seems on (the router recognizes the connection and it powers on the corresponding led - same for the pci led). Still no connection when I checked with OWB on random websites and when I tried to connect to my router's IP. First I get a fail message "couldn't resolve host name". When I added a random hostname I got an error "couldn't connect to the server". Shouldn't I configure the device via System/prefs somewhere?

Fiendly bump.

How do I add the network device?

I can't believe nobody knows around here :)

Have you tried to set IP address and DNS manually?

..and probably you have to first add the new device: System Preferences -> Network -> Add new device

The RTL8139 interface should appear in network preferences already. It just has to be configured (and the other interface, if available, should be disabled)

Can you make a screenshot of these settings, anyway?

I didn't have to set the IP address or DNS manually when I installed a realtek network card.
And so far, when I've ordered \USB 2.0 cards on Ebay, as long as they were NEC based they've worked.

Here's a dirt cheap one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-2-0-4-1-5-Port-480Mbps-High-Speed-NEC-HUB-PCI-Controller-Card-Adapter-/350497448284?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519b46a15c

External connections and one internal one.
I used a similar card to run a port to the front of my case.

If you cannot see ur card straight away it probably means that there is something wrong.

Hello again, sorry for long silence but my hands were full the previous days :(
Anyway, found some time and mess with the machine today and took some grabs for you.
However, there isn't anything fancy going on, most reflect a default Morphos setup.
For example here are the network preferences:
g20rab.jpg
and here as well:
g1rab.jpg
Here below you can find the network statistics:
[img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/g4rab.png/[img]
and here as well:
[img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/406/g3rab.png/[img]
Here below is the error of OWB:
[img]http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/443/77349904e.jpg/[img]
I believe that the error is normal due to the fact that the network is down, meaning, it is selecting the on-board ethernet which doesn't work.
Wat puzzles me is the below:
grabxg.jpg
As you can see, I am trying to manually add the PCI RTL 8139 but without any luck (I have tried a lot of unit numbers from 0-4).
As I have already written, the physical link is on and acknowledged by my router already. The chipset of the PCI ethernet is the correct one as described by the MorphOS compatibility hardware list.
What I am doing wrong here?

[ Edited by Cool_amigaN 24.03.2012 - 07:34 ]

As Fab said in post #38, the rtl device should automagically appear in the network preferences. You do not have to add it manually (this "add" feature is only required for old devices not supporting MorphOS' query method).

Could you show us the output of c:pciscan? To check how your rtl pci card is detected.

Hello once again and sorry for the long delay but I am left with virtually zero time for for my hobby :(
Anyway, I found a couple of minutes made some tests:
First of all, cables are good, the same for router, connection from ISP.
I run c:pciscan and apparently my pci ethernet isn't recognized by MorphOS even though the green light at the back of the ethernet is on (meaning it is powered on) and the chipset is the correct one. I will swap the pci ethernet to another slot. Aside that, any other ideas?
Here below follows the pciscan output in case I missed anything:
pcix.library 51.5
------------------------------------------------------
BoardObject 0x2000F7FC Owner <>
Bridge <pci0> Bus 0 Dev 11 Function 0
Vendor 0x106B <Apple Computer Inc.> Device 0x20 <UniNorth AGP>
Class 0x6 <Bridge>
SubClass 0x0 <Host bridge>
ProgInterface 0x0 <>
Command 0x16
-> Memory Access
-> Bus Mastering
-> Memory Write & Invalidate
Status 0x2230
-> Reserved 4
-> 66 MHz Capable
-> Received Master Abort
DevSel: Medium Devsel Speed
Cap_List: Head CapPtr 0x80
Cap_List: CapPtr 0x100002
Cap_List: CapID 0x2
AGP 1.0 Interface Version
AGP Status Reg Offset 0x84
-> RQ 7
-> ARQSZ 0 (optimum request size = 2^(ARQSZ+4)
-> CAL_Cycle 4ms
-> Side Band Address Support
-> Rate 1X/2X
AGP Command Reg Offset 0x88
-> PRQ Entries 0
-> PARQSZ Entries 0 (optimum request size = 2^(ARQSZ+4)
-> CAL_Cycle 4ms
IOBase: Address 0xEFFFF000
------------------------------------------------------
BoardObject 0x2000F8FC Owner <Radeon>
Bridge <pci0> Bus 0 Dev 16 Function 0
Vendor 0x1002 <ATI Technologies Inc> Device 0x4966 <Radeon RV250 If [Radeon 9000]>
Class 0x3 <Display controller>
SubClass 0x0 <VGA compatible controller>
ProgInterface 0x0 <VGA controller>
Command 0x87
-> I/O Access
-> Memory Access
-> Bus Mastering
-> Wait Cycles
Status 0x2B0
-> Reserved 4
-> 66 MHz Capable
-> Fast Back-To-Back
DevSel: Medium Devsel Speed
Cap_List: Head CapPtr 0x58
Cap_List: CapPtr 0x205002
Cap_List: CapID 0x2
AGP 2.0 Interface Version
AGP Status Reg Offset 0x5C
-> RQ 47
-> ARQSZ 0 (optimum request size = 2^(ARQSZ+4)
-> CAL_Cycle 4ms
-> Side Band Address Support
-> Fast Write Support
-> Rate 1X/2X
AGP Command Reg Offset 0x60
-> PRQ Entries 0
-> PARQSZ Entries 0 (optimum request size = 2^(ARQSZ+4)
-> CAL_Cycle 4ms
-> Side Band Address Support Enabled
Cap_List: CapPtr 0x6020001
Cap_List: CapID 0x1
PMC
-> PME_Support 0x0
-> D2_SupportFW
-> D1_SupportFW
-> Aux_Current 0x0
-> Version 0x2
PMCSR
-> Data_Scale 0x0
-> Data_Select 0x0
-> PowerState 0x0
PMCSR_BSE
Data 0x0
IOBase: Address 0xEFFFF000
Base 0: Address 0xE7FFF000 Size 0x8000000
Base 2: Address 0xE7FEF000 Size 0x10000
------------------------------------------------------
BoardObject 0x2000FC94 Owner <pciusb.device>
Bridge <pci1> Bus 1 Dev 3 Function 0
Vendor 0x10B9 <ALi Corporation> Device 0x5237 <ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Motherboard>
Class 0xC <Serial bus controller>
SubClass 0x3 <USB Controller>
ProgInterface 0x10 <OHCI>
Command 0x7
-> I/O Access
-> Memory Access
-> Bus Mastering
Status 0x2B0
-> Reserved 4
-> 66 MHz Capable
-> Fast Back-To-Back
DevSel: Medium Devsel Speed
Cap_List: Head CapPtr 0x60
Cap_List: CapPtr 0xD8020001
Cap_List: CapID 0x1
PMC
-> PME_Support 0x1B
-> Aux_Current 0x0
-> Version 0x2
PMCSR
-> Data_Scale 0x0
-> Data_Select 0x0
-> PowerState 0x0
PMCSR_BSE
Data 0x0
IOBase: Address 0xE7FCE000
Base 0: Address 0xE7FCD000 Size 0x1000
------------------------------------------------------
BoardObject 0x2000FD84 Owner <pciusb.device>
Bridge <pci1> Bus 1 Dev 3 Function 1
Vendor 0x10B9 <ALi Corporation> Device 0x5237 <ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Motherboard>
Class 0xC <Serial bus controller>
SubClass 0x3 <USB Controller>
ProgInterface 0x10 <OHCI>
Command 0x7
-> I/O Access
-> Memory Access
-> Bus Mastering
Status 0x2B0
-> Reserved 4
-> 66 MHz Capable
-> Fast Back-To-Back
DevSel: Medium Devsel Speed
Cap_List: Head CapPtr 0x60
Cap_List: CapPtr 0xD8020001
Cap_List: CapID 0x1
PMC
-> PME_Support 0x1B
-> Aux_Current 0x0
-> Version 0x2
PMCSR
-> Data_Scale 0x0
-> Data_Select 0x0
-> PowerState 0x0
PMCSR_BSE
Data 0x0
IOBase: Address 0xE7FCE000
Base 0: Address 0xE7FCC000 Size 0x1000
------------------------------------------------------
BoardObject 0x2000FE74 Owner <pciusb.device>
Bridge <pci1> Bus 1 Dev 3 Function 2
Vendor 0x10B9 <ALi Corporation> Device 0x5237 <ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Motherboard>
Class 0xC <Serial bus controller>
SubClass 0x3 <USB Controller>
ProgInterface 0x10 <OHCI>
Command 0x7
-> I/O Access
-> Memory Access
-> Bus Mastering
Status 0x2B0
-> Reserved 4
-> 66 MHz Capable
-> Fast Back-To-Back
DevSel: Medium Devsel Speed
Cap_List: Head CapPtr 0x60
Cap_List: CapPtr 0xD8020001
Cap_List: CapID 0x1
PMC
-> PME_Support 0x1B
-> Aux_Current 0x0
-> Version 0x2
PMCSR
-> Data_Scale 0x0
-> Data_Select 0x0
-> PowerState 0x0
PMCSR_BSE
Data 0x0
IOBase: Address 0xE7FCE000
Base 0: Address 0xE7FCB000 Size 0x1000
------------------------------------------------------
BoardObject 0x2000FF64 Owner <pciusb.device>
Bridge <pci1> Bus 1 Dev 3 Function 3
Vendor 0x10B9 <ALi Corporation> Device 0x5239 <ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Motherboard>
Class 0xC <Serial bus controller>
SubClass 0x3 <USB Controller>
ProgInterface 0x20 <EHCI>
Command 0x6
-> Memory Access
-> Bus Mastering
Status 0x2B0
-> Reserved 4
-> 66 MHz Capable
-> Fast Back-To-Back
DevSel: Medium Devsel Speed
Cap_List: Head CapPtr 0x50
Cap_List: CapPtr 0xC8025801
Cap_List: CapID 0x1
PMC
-> PME_Support 0x19
-> Aux_Current 0x0
-> Version 0x2
PMCSR
-> Data_Scale 0x0
-> Data_Select 0x0
-> PowerState 0x0
PMCSR_BSE
Data 0x0
Cap_List: CapPtr 0x2090000A
Cap_List: CapID 0xA
IOBase: Address 0xE7FCE000
Base 0: Address 0xE7FCA000 Size 0x100
------------------------------------------------------
BoardObject 0x20010054 Owner <>
Bridge <pci1> Bus 1 Dev 4 Function 0
Vendor 0x1102 <Creative Labs> Device 0x2 <CT4780 SBLive! Value>
Class 0x4 <Multimedia controller>
SubClass 0x1 <Multimedia audio controller>
ProgInterface 0x0 <>
Command 0x5
-> I/O Access
-> Bus Mastering
Status 0x290
-> Reserved 4
-> Fast Back-To-Back
DevSel: Medium Devsel Speed
Cap_List: Head CapPtr 0xDC
Cap_List: CapPtr 0x6010001
Cap_List: CapID 0x1
PMC
-> PME_Support 0x0
-> D2_SupportFW
-> D1_SupportFW
-> Aux_Current 0x0
-> Version 0x1
PMCSR
-> Data_Scale 0x0
-> Data_Select 0x0
-> PowerState 0x0
PMCSR_BSE
Data 0x0
IOBase: Address 0xE7FCE000
Base 0: Address 0xE7FC9000 Size 0x20
------------------------------------------------------
BoardObject 0x20010144 Owner <>
Bridge <pci1> Bus 1 Dev 4 Function 1
Vendor 0x1102 <Creative Labs> Device 0x7002 <Gameport Joystick>
Class 0x9 <Input device controller>
SubClass 0x80 <Input device controller>
ProgInterface 0x0 <>
Command 0x4
-> Bus Mastering
Status 0x290
-> Reserved 4
-> Fast Back-To-Back
DevSel: Medium Devsel Speed
Cap_List: Head CapPtr 0xDC
Cap_List: CapPtr 0x6010001
Cap_List: CapID 0x1
PMC
-> PME_Support 0x0
-> D2_SupportFW
-> D1_SupportFW
-> Aux_Current 0x0
-> Version 0x1
PMCSR
-> Data_Scale 0x0
-> Data_Select 0x0
-> PowerState 0x0
PMCSR_BSE
Data 0x0
IOBase: Address 0xE7FCE000
Base 0: Address 0xE7FC9020 Size 0x10
------------------------------------------------------
BoardObject 0x20010234 Owner <pciusb.device>
Bridge <pci1> Bus 1 Dev 8 Function 0
Vendor 0x106B <Apple Computer Inc.> Device 0x19 <KeyLargo USB>
Class 0xC <Serial bus controller>
SubClass 0x3 <USB Controller>
ProgInterface 0x10 <OHCI>
Command 0x6
-> Memory Access
-> Bus Mastering
Status 0x200
DevSel: Medium Devsel Speed
IOBase: Address 0xE7FCE000
Base 0: Address 0xE7FC8000 Size 0x1000
------------------------------------------------------
BoardObject 0x20010364 Owner <pciusb.device>
Bridge <pci1> Bus 1 Dev 9 Function 0
Vendor 0x106B <Apple Computer Inc.> Device 0x19 <KeyLargo USB>
Class 0xC <Serial bus controller>
SubClass 0x3 <USB Controller>
ProgInterface 0x10 <OHCI>
Command 0x6
-> Memory Access
-> Bus Mastering
Status 0x200
DevSel: Medium Devsel Speed
IOBase: Address 0xE7FCE000
Base 0: Address 0xE7FC7000 Size 0x1000
------------------------------------------------------
BoardObject 0x20010494 Owner <>
Bridge <pci1> Bus 1 Dev 10 Function 0
Vendor 0x104C <Texas Instruments> Device 0x8019 <TSB12LV23 IEEE-1394 Controller>
Class 0xC <Serial bus controller>
SubClass 0x0 <FireWire (IEEE 1394)>
ProgInterface 0x10 <OHCI>
Command 0x10
-> Memory Write & Invalidate
Status 0x210
-> Reserved 4
DevSel: Medium Devsel Speed
Cap_List: Head CapPtr 0x44
Cap_List: CapPtr 0x64110001
Cap_List: CapID 0x1
PMC
-> PME_Support 0xC
-> D2_SupportFW
-> Aux_Current 0x0
-> Version 0x1
PMCSR
-> Data_Scale 0x0
-> Data_Select 0x0
-> PowerState 0x0
PMCSR_BSE
Data 0x0
IOBase: Address 0xE7FCE000
Base 0: Address 0xE7FC6000 Size 0x1000
Base 1: Address 0xE7FC2000 Size 0x4000
------------------------------------------------------
BoardObject 0x2001063C Owner <sungem_eth.device>
Bridge <pci2> Bus 0 Dev 15 Function 0
Vendor 0x106B <Apple Computer Inc.> Device 0x21 <UniNorth GMAC (Sun GEM)>
Class 0x2 <Network controller>
SubClass 0x0 <Ethernet controller>
ProgInterface 0x0 <>
Command 0x6
-> Memory Access
-> Bus Mastering
Status 0x84A0
-> 66 MHz Capable
-> Fast Back-To-Back
-> Detected Parity Error
DevSel: Slow Devsel Speed
IOBase: Address 0xE7FC1000
Base 0: Address 0xE7DC1000 Size 0x200000

*Gentle bump*

It's me again, bringing some update: Yesterday I switched PCI slot for the ethernet card, booted and the chipset was recognized automatically! However, I have now two problem:

First, when the cable is hooked at the ethernet port, the machine won't boot (unless I unplug it and replug it after Ambient is loaded). A similar behavior to wake on LAN on PCs or so... How I can fix this?

Secondly, how I can determine the exact problem of the pci slot? I have just inserted a Nec usb 2.0 card confirmed to work but it seems dead. Some days a go, when the ethernet card was plugged in it was powered on, but MoprhOS didn't recognized it.. How is this is even possible?

One general question: The mac address, which MosphOS will be licensed upon, is it directly correlated with my PCI card and if I switch it to another pci port or replace it with another one, the license will become invalid?

Suggestions:
1) The Sungem (onboard) ethernet was ticked along with the RTL chipset (before I untick the first one through the network tab at preferences). I think that only one should be ticked even if it scans the PCI chipset when first installed.

2) Though Papiosaur states that his pack can be installed on registered and unregistered MorphOS versions (meaning it is technically possible), there should be a note that will explicitly discourage a user to do so (on a unregistered machine) because the time needed to perform the necessary actions goes far beyond the 30 demo minutes! I have left the machine for more than 2 hours and the installation wasn't completed (given the fact that >30 min, machine severely slows down). Also, there should be a note for how exact free space a user might need on his SYS partition because I had a very small partition (around 600MBs) and at one point the partition was full. Btw, excellent idea this pack mate :)

First impression: I downloaded latest mplayer version and watched a 480p Spartacus episode. Moving the window around the screen was ultra smooth. Switching fullscreen and window was ultra smooth as well. Movie required less that 8% of my cpu horse power (according to cpu monitor), a value that I find ultra small as well :) Then, i downloaded latest OWB from Fab... one sentence; this browser is the second fastest among my collection. Only my beloved Opera on a core2duo can surpass it! Damn, it is fast :)

Hope to fix the problems within this week and register asap!

The keyfile is allways connected to the onboard MAC-address (well unless you had an early Pegasos1), wether you use that port or a PCI-card is irrelevant.

Ok, great!
Can somebody clarify how to solve the following?

Quote:

well, i guess it's a HW problem, try to clean up the motherboard and used connectors, this might help. I have experience with bad ide connectors, after some time (several months), a hdd starts to report errors... after unplugging and back plugging the ide cable, everything is okay... but of course it can be yet another issue :)

bye, MarK.

You mean for the PCI slot that doesn't work properly or for the fact that MorphOS doesn't boot with the ethernet cable plugged in? Cause I have those two last problem which I am trying to sort right now :)