@Framiga
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moderator on what forum?

Hi @takemehomegrandma,

>> I just want a CPU upgrade ...
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Bend Over, Here It Comes Again! And everyone jumping of joy among dancing
bananas about it.

LOL, you made fall off my stool and hurt my cheeks!

>I'll tell you what; if you put your ears close to the motherboard, and the
room is silent enough, you will probably be able to hear the Articia
brainfarting through the ethernet connector in pure horror!

Better: log your A1-XE on the Quake2 online server at AW and when
anyone comes along, the login freezes you where ever you are until the
new player is done logging in. Haven't found any info on this problem.
It could be Articia or the Tornedo ethernet card. Why damage your ear.

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>And besides not functioning properly, the Articia S is also crippled with
bottle-necks all over, so this kind of CPU will be a complete *waste of
money*, since it won't be able to even *come close* to its fullest potential
(for which you pay your money).

Good point! If the A1 mobo and everything was up to spec., then spending
this kind money may be worth it. But, as it stands, I'm going to pass this
upgrade.

I love your reply to Raf_MegaByte. LOL all the way through the read!

What everyone seems to forgot again, that's what pulls back both Pegasos' and A1's performance is actually not the 1Ghz boundary in the CPU clock, but more the bus speed, what the damn CPU is connected to. Which is only 133Mhz. Even a Pegasos II tops out at 300-450MB/sec at it's memory speed, and ~250MB/sec AGP speed, and this situation is a lot worse on the A1. OK, 7448's 1MB cache can help there, but the bottleneck will be even more extreme for a CPU running at 1.7Ghz. (And let's not count that because of Articia "features" the OS needs to do constant cacheflushes.)

Such a CPU upgrade will be good for nothing, expect to have some impressive results in some synthetic benchmarks. Of course some people would even sell their souls (or all their dancing bananas) to have better benchmarks results on a clocked-to-sky A1 than any average Peg2 board, so such cards still have their potential customers.

As for the Peg2 "1.7Ghz" upgrade, the situation is quite similar, except that IIRC the Marvell chip on the Peg2 could do at least 166Mhz bus speed, so in theory an OF upgrade with different timings (if the other components on the board allow that) could help for a such high-clocked CPU. But this is only a what-if game.

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Please, do not compare him with Eyetech...

I mean yes, he is (also) going to sell a very expensive product (considering what you get, and what others can get for the same price) but at least it seems that he's doing most of the work himself, instead of re-selling others' work with a higher price tag...

Yes, AmigaOnes have lots of problems, but they're not coused by him or anything... And if 1.7GHz cards won't work well (at all?), they probably will get canceled.

I see this situation as him cleaning up after Eyetech. Trying to produce working CPU cards to those, who no longer have one.

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Except that he is not a moderator and that his comments are a lot articulated than what you can find from users and moderators on a particular red site where people account have been denied access for less than what you have said.

If you judge how it was written it is maybe that you have no argument to discuss any of the point he brought.

Anyway lets stop the OT.

oops! honestly i thought he was! sorry for the mistake. About the content ... usual fanatic style which i strongly hate.

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You can recognize site moderators from "moderator" badge that looks exactly like the one, he doesn't have

Quoting THGM:
>Then how about this: The A1 was a piece of crap
>The AmigaOne is probably the darkest episode in >the Amiga history

IMHO This is not trolling, this is the sad truth. And belive me, I'm not in any way happy for the Amiga situation, also if I own a Peg.
But how could you better define an hw with uncounted bugs other than pure CRAP?
And, yes, also IMHO calling this CRAP Amiga is an offence to the memory of what Amiga was.
So, if this is trolling, everyone posting an opinion based on FACTS (because the hw faults of A1 are PROVEN & DOCUMENTED) is a troll.
Aloha

i've never called him troll. I wrote "fanatic" that's not the same.

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and to be more precise, is the above statements that i find at least "sad".

@Framiga
ok, my mistake, but I think that also fanatic is unappropriate definition.
Imho THGM is just expressing an opionion, agreable or not...
I think he's not a fanatic just because he's saying that AFAWK only BPlan has skills and knowledges to build working & reliable PPC mobos. As today, 27/04/2006 it's a FACT, not an opinion.
When we'll see working PowerVixens or Troikas, we could all be proud to have another nextgen Amiga, but until then, let us be at least skeptists!

Ciao Framiga!

Let us end the discussion for you. Unfortunately, the 7448 needs too much power and runs too hot for the Pegasos to function at a cycle level that would be interesting this group. The 7448 does not fall within the performance parameters originally announced for the chip. We promoted the 7448 and invested significant effort in a design built around it. It is not suitable for the PegasosPPC. The bottom line is that it needs twice the power for 20% more performance. It is not worth it. As Gerald says: "we expect more."

R&B

That is the official position.

R&B

@BBRV and Genesi

Ok doesn't sound to good if 7448 needs so much energy but what about 7447A will you realese that chip. I personally think it's time to update Pegasos 2 a little bit, I think it has been around now for pretty long time without any big change in CPU-cards.

then i'd be more interested in dual 7447a cpu board, if morphos would support this... wow! i'd buy such card for, say, 300 euros is it possible one (near) day?

bye, MarK.

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You can call me whatever you like! Frankly, I couldn't care less, but perhaps you should look up the word "fanatic" in a dictionary?

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