I have no idea what you did, but a shutdown is a shutdown - there's no way a PowerBook would get hot after a shutdown, unless you have a broken battery or the thing... did not really shutdown, but you'd hear the HDD spinning then for instance. Letting your machine run with the lid closed, on the other hand, isn't a good idea in general. The machine can't cool itself easily with the lid closed and MorphOS has no sleep mode whatsoever, so in best case you'll just put a lot of strain on the fans, which are not designed to run 24/7.

Also, $500? Ouch, they're not worth more than $250.

@jacad

Well, Every single one I could find anywhere was broken in about five different ways.
I have this image of Mac owners now of them having a 'stomp on your Mac' party.
Seriously, what other explanation is there for the butchered condition of most of them?

This one was an apple refurb, had a 30 day warranty, had nothing wrong with it, and was the best and last one made (16080x1050 res) so I went ahead and paid too much.

At least I don't have dead pixels, non working dvd drives, broken audio, cracked cases, etc, etc, etc....

Plus they threw in an extra NEW battery.

@crumb

I currently leave all my laptops on this way.
Doesn't make any sense to plug it in till it charges up (how will you be around when it is done?) and then unplug it and watch it only run for 1-2hrs and then repeat this insane process.

If need be I will run it without a battery if that will prevent problems with battery damage.

I do remember after shutting down that I also closed the lid, perhaps this caused the extreme heat build up.

From now on, if I shutdown I will remove the power cord or just not shutdown at all.


[ Edited by bash64 20.01.2013 - 07:36 ]

jacadcaps,
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I remember Apple having trouble with batteries for their powerboos/ibooks a couple of years ago. But those original batteries are probably not in use anymore (too aged). The batteries were produced by LG and for example used with the 5.6 powerbook.

bash64,
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I shut it down each evening and close the lid and it is just off and stays cool. There's something wrong with your machine. I'd suggest to remove the battery and shut it down, close the lid and check whether it still gets warm or stays cool..

Zylesea,
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I'd take this a step further and say there is something wrong with your laptop and you should send in for an exchange with Apple.

I just tried to operate it without the battery, but with the power cord.
It won't even power up without the battery in.

That means you've got a wrong/broken PSU.

From Apple, it seems to answer the question:

About the Power Manager

The Power Manager is an integrated circuit (computer chip) that is usually on the logic board of the PowerBook and iBook. As the name implies, it is responsible for power management of the computer. It controls backlighting, hard disk spin down, sleep and wake, some charging aspects, trackpad control, and some input/output as it relates to the computer sleeping.

Over time, the settings in the Power Manager may become unusable, which can result in operational anomalies with the computer. Examples include not turning on, not waking from sleep, not charging the battery, or not seeing the AC Adapter, among others.

Resetting the PMU is not intended for resolution of a stall or situation in which the computer is unresponsive. A PMU reset should not be necessary except as a last resort in cases where a hardware failure of the power management system is suspected. Performing a PMU reset returns the iBook and PowerBook hardware, including NVRAM, to default settings and forces the computer to shut down.

For most situations, a restart is sufficient. If the computer has stopped responding, try these steps, in order, until the computer responds:

Force Quit (Option-Command-Escape)
Restart (Control-Command-Power)
Force Shut Down (press the power button for 10 seconds)

Only perform a PMU reset on the computer if none of the above steps resolved the situation. If this is the case, see below for instructions on locating the reset button or key combination for your model of iBook or PowerBook. If your computer is earlier than the models listed here, see "PowerBook: Resetting Power Management Unit (PMU)".

I am using Morph to watch the battery charge up.
The psu seems to be working fine, but I will get a better quality one for giggles.
The one I have does seem to get rather hot.

1st :

Apple still offers refurbed PBs in the day and ages ???? W !!!!! T !!!!!! FRACK ????????

Just take a close look on your PSU, there are some faint scribbling on it right next to the detachable plug there should be 65W (in a box).

If it reads 45W instead your PSU was made for iBooks and won't be sufficient to run the PB and charge the battery at the same time.

Well, I can't find my reading glasses but my friend Ed says there is no 65w box anywhere on it.
The psu is rated at 1.875amps.
MorphOS is reporting that it is running between 1300 and 1400 mA.
Maybe this is the wrong power adapter after all.
I have reset pram and reset the pmu.
I am calibrating the battery.
Hopefully this will all help.
When I get home from work today I will run the Apple Hardware Test on the Mac OS X dvd.

If you can read the amps you should also be able to read the watts (just turn the PSU by 90°).
Assuming you have a genuine Apple PSU (Apple logo directly in the plastic on both sides).
My 65W unit claims 2.65A so it does indeed seem that you have a 45W unit from an iBook.

[ Edited by Kronos 20.01.2013 - 21:12 ]

Verified.
This is a 45w psu.
Damn.
The 65w has a square box with "65w" in the center.
I found a picture on ebay.
Also, if you remove the detachable two prong plug, the button that holds the plug in is plastic for a 45w and metal for a 65w. Mine is plastic.
Calling the Apple Store to see if they have one I can get today.
I know... they will overcharge me.

They no longer carry one.
Ordered this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251050352000?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

bash64,
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Wait a sec... If you got this laptop from Apple, they should replace the improper PS for free.

@Bash64

I've also bought one of these. The 65W claim is... stretching the truth.
It acts the same as a 45W psu, ie if you run out of juice you'll have to leave it charging for a couple of minutes before it'll restart. The charging current (from battery.sbar) also indicates it is more like 45W.

Can't understand why you'd consider buying a $$$$ psu from Apple directly, then go for the cheapest 3rd-party psu as the next alternative. A 2nd hand (or NOS) Apple psu via Ebay would serve you far better...

PS - If you're running dnetc client, that could explain the overheating (cpu running at 100% all the time), although not the failure to power down.

[ Edited by boot_wb 20.01.2013 - 23:47 ]

boot_wb,
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Yes, as he should be getting one FOR FREE from Apple, as he clearly bough a "computer + compatible power supply" set, which he obviously didn't get.

Also remember to ask about "restarting" your warranty, now that you should finally have a working setup (after getting the PSU)

And regarding some doubts of "65 watts actually being 45" - that likely means "45 watts" one is even less

I think the company who sold this to me pulled my leg on the Apple warranty.
I think they refurbed it themselves. They claimed they sent it to Apple.

I wrote to them to get the correct power supply so I should get one for free.
I also ordered the ebay one.
I always get two adapters anyway for every laptop I buy.
I only paid $10 for the ebay one and reviews say they are as good or better than the Apple one, if its the 65w one, but not the 45w one.

I kept crashing since then so I just booted off the MOS cd and ran SFSDoctor.
Crashing is gone now.
I am back in my happy place.

Big thanks to everyone for answering all of my numerous posts.
It was time to take the plunge and I considered Mac, Linux and Morph.
Mac is pricey. Linux seems to be going the wrong way nowadays and Microsoft is in the shitter with Window 8.
Move over, I'm moving in.



[ Edited by bash64 20.01.2013 - 20:47 ]