Yokemate of Keyboards
Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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Quote:redrumloa wrote:
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Andreas_Wolf wrote:
What would be cool, also in the context of this website, is running MorphOS on the virtualized G4 Mac.
Has Bigfoot ever mentioned Talos either way? As in, is the chance of a MorphOS native port anywhere north of 0%?
I've discussed Raptor Enginnering and it's projects with Mark a few times.
I don't think he'd be adverse to receiving one of their boards.
That being said, just like to PowerMac 11,2 beta port, having a developer experiment with new hardware is not the same as official support.
Mark has also mentioned an interest in the T2080 laptop.
But...one developer, with an obvious passion for hardware is what it is, ONE developer.
MorphOS is the product of a community of developers, and official support is something that would require the support of more than one developer.
If the T2080 laptop reaches production, we should buy one for Mark.
The same is true for a single cpu MATX Power 9 system from Raptor.
BUT...buying some new hardware for Mark to experiment with is NO gaurentee of official support. And something more polished than an initial beta port ought to be paid for as well (remember, Mark was paid for the G5 port).
I don't think I can stress enough that this OS is a group project, and the group has already committed to an X64 fork.
I, like many of you, would love to see continued development of the original PPC variant of MorphOS.
It would still support 68K code, it's NOT Intel/X86 (and alternatives to that have always had their appeal), and who said we HAVE to be practical?
Power9 based MorphOS? I find the idea VERY attractive. Especially as the base for a new generation of MorphOS. It could run our existing apps and provide a base for all the new features we've discussed in a potential X64 fork (as well as potentially running OS4 via KVM if we wanted to really wanted to freak out the red team).
If the price for the MATX system is good, Power9 would be a kick ass direction for us to move toward.
Addendum - I noticed that in another thread, Redrumloa has mentioned that the 2.7 GHz G5 has the most powerful PPC NG processor available, and that someone else mention the T2080 as a possible contender.
While I am a supporter of the T2080 laptop project I'd like to point out that although the T2080 does support 8 concurrent threads (versus a max of 4 for the best G5), Jim's contention is correct.
The 970 has a faster clock speed, better memory throughput (especially true for the DDR2 dual core variants) and a pretty competent FPU.
It does lack a hypervisor, but overall it's a pretty remarkable processor (especially considering how old it is).
Which makes the argument for supporting Power9 all the stronger. The G5 was a Power4 derived cpu with a reduced feature set. Power9 is five generations later, with no compromises in it's design.
Like the 970 was in it's day, Power9 is quite capable when compared to current X64 cpus.
[ Edited by Jim 03.09.2018 - 19:20 ]"Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
Also a big improvement are the onboard SATA-connectors. On the other Talos variants you have to check first if your PCIe SATA card (in case your don't want to pay $ 300 for the onboard SAS-controller) is actually supported in the Petitboot-kernel if you want to boot from SATA.
Hmm, this might come from the TenFourFox or Adelie Linux corner? The still have the focus on ppc BE.
