> is it really available new?

Relec
AMIGAstore
Comsystec

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I actually think red has a valid point.

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Out of stock doesn't necessarily mean a product is abandoned. As we all know Acube belongs to the little fish and doesn't do big production runs. I think they just sell their stock and wait and see for more demand. And if demand is still high enough for another production run, a new batch will be produced. Would be nice though to have an official word on that issue by Acube. Also, if the Sams will be available w/o OS4 then.

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As much as I can appreciate a good fetish, surely this is the wrong kind of box?

>>> is it really available new?

>> Relec
>> AMIGAstore
>> Comsystec

> I actually think red has a valid point.

I answered his question I quoted above my reply. You seem to refer to something else.

Andreas_Wolf,
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Ok, so a couple fringe dealers have at least one board in stock and probably not more than 3 each. The manufacturer themselves do not and the biggest 2 resellers, Amigakit and Vesalia, do not. MorphOS will not be ready for several months at least, there are no guarantees these fringe resellers will have their 1-3 boards in stock by then.

Please can someone point me to MOS developers, I would like to prepay MOS and enter alpha test for SAM460ex version with X1550 card. Thanks. I am dread serious about it.

> Please can someone point me to MOS developers, I would like to prepay MOS and
> enter alpha test for SAM460ex version

See comment #104 for a MorphOS Team member's answer to your inquiry.

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THAT has to be the first off color joke I have seen here.

@ VoX, I don't think they need testers for the SAM460 port.

@vox

Just to repeat what everyone else have said so far:

# The SAM460 port is not official, and it doesn't have a date for when it will be released. It's more a "proof of concept", just like the iMac G5 port: just to see if it's possible. That doesn't mean it will happen since there are plenty of things against such a port (otherwise it would have been released years ago). This doesn't mean that there WONT be a port to the SAM, but it's the policy of the MOS Team to not make promises. This mean, in a nutshell, that until the day it's released (if ever) it is as good as non existent.

# I know you are impatient, but Amigaland really is the wrong place to be that. I'm also impatient! I want everything, and I want it now! But longing for something doesn't speed up development, even if you want it really REALLY bad.

# If they say it can't be done the first time, it can't be done the second time either. Be patient.

# Get yourself a G5 on Ebay. If you can find a version that works with your countries voltage then it's just a matter of changing the standard power chord, and violá, you have the fastest NG Amiga there is. Then you can even sell your SAM to someone who really wants it for AmigaOS 4 and even make a buck.

Just my humble opinions. Welcome to MorphOS!

Actually, its fairly official.
When will it be done...?

Anyone care to offer the stock response to that (and no it isn't 'two weeks')?

But it has been suggested repeatedly in the past that we refrain from purchasing hardware in anticipation of its support.

@Jim

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Really? That's news to me. I remember seeing SAMs with MOS working on it on very old pictures but it is telling that it isn't supported yet, despite that.

On the other hand, I wouldn't buy a SAM anyway. Too expensive and too weak. I think even the AOS 4 fans would think so too if they could use used Macs like we can.

Well, its a hard sell with G5s available.
Frank had the SAM460 port on the back burner for awhile, as other projects were concurrent.
But since he and Mark appear to like to juggle multiple simultaneous projects, I believe its moving forward.

@Jim

It wouldn't surprise me if a SAM460 port will be available in quite the near future. BUT, since MOS Team doesn't like to promise this and that because sometimes things seems to work but in the end doesn't, it's a bad idea to make assumptions on anything that isn't spilled out: "Yes, this will be available".

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True, which is why I would not recommend this platform.
It is not ready, until its ready.

And even then, a G5 would slap it silly (actually so would a G4, even an iBook).

Applied Micro Socs make everything else look really powerful.
Even the dated PegII is a powerhouse when compared to a SAM460.

> Get yourself a G5 on Ebay. [...] Then you can even sell your SAM to someone who
> really wants it for AmigaOS 4 and even make a buck.

If he does this, he could have better kept his X1000 for sale instead of exchanging it for the Sam460 ;-)

> I remember seeing SAMs with MOS working on it on very old pictures but it is
> telling that it isn't supported yet, despite that.

"Frank and Mark resumed work on the Sam460 port after almost 1 year of "freeze"."
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=9691&forum=3&start=9

> the dated PegII is a powerhouse when compared to a SAM460.

I think the winner of that fixture is not so clear (unless it comes to AltiVec code of course):

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=6235&start=34 (posting #35)

Glad you mentioned that, I didn't feel like drawing Mark into the discussion, but he's got a SAM460 too.
Frank and Mark have several neat things they are working on.
I'm sure I'm not aware of half of them.

The SAM460 doesn't really do much for me, but the R500 driver that will accompany it...

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I ll take patience, as I am well versed there by past camp.

Its not software or hadrware that drives old geek mad, but people
that missbehave, like Steven playing madness *here Kronos was nice replacement
even they are knowledgable to a humble social scientist.

I knew there will be no X1000 MOS so I switched with DJ Nick just because of AROS+<PS and there will be some DJ Nick style vidz on MOS once SAM460ex version is done.

I would not call it PROOF OF CONCENPT. As far as I read, its funded by Acube, its presented in beta and alpha states, and done by MOS team, so its quite official.

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Again thinking for me, its difficult to EXPORT and IMPORT from/to Serbia, you don`t live my reality ... This was easy and good solution and yes DJ Nick will return X1000 if MOS ever comes for it

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Had no idea it was team member? How do I differ them from other people, since they (thanks Jah) appear nornally and behave

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A pity the 1.4 GHz cpu card for the PegII is not more common (or that virtually no technical details exist on the PegII cpu card).

Since those tests point out a level of parity for the SAM460, I withdraw my reservations on the use of that system.

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Well SAM460 isn`t that bad CPU it is kind of AMCC440 on muscles, but with DDR2, SATA and PCI-E it makes a decent envirovment to work with compared to faster CPU, DDRAM, IDE and PCI.

> I switched with DJ Nick just because of AROS+<PS

Regarding AROS, read there:
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=7001&start=786

> As far as I read, its funded by Acube

As far as I read, it isn't:
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=6918&start=90