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    Kronos
    Posts: 2499 from 2003/2/24
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    Krisz wrote:
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    Kronos wrote:
    Small update from my side:

    Got an HD3650 that kinda works on 3.19, no signal on HDMI or DP just DVI but at least it's a start.

    The 1€ AirPort also showed up and with an antenna ripped out of a QuickSilver G4 it does work quite well.
    Need to find a solution to secure the card and antenna though.



    Good luck with making your wifi antenna
    It's a shame the HDMI output doesn't work, that would be the advantage of the HD card.
    I decided to give up the wifi card and buy a regular lan card instead.
    I will buy this.: TP-Link TG-3468


    I did find a small board from a PowerBook that has the right sockets for the G5 antenna cables so a non destructive adapter is possible.

    As for GFX, moved the box over to 3.20b which did mix up the results a bit.
    I ended up using an R5 230 which did not work at all with 3.19 which kinda works with the 27" at 2560x1440 but excels on the widescreen at 3440x1440 using an active DualLinkDVI-DisplayPort adapter.

    I'd say almost as good as 2 2560x1440 screens, I might even keep it that way for the time being.
  • »16.04.25 - 14:45
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    Krisz
    Posts: 154 from 2023/3/22
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    koszer wrote:
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    Krisz wrote:
    Due to the lack of SDL, I can only test the machine with a few games, and one of them was a car racing game called Torch, which seemed a bit slow to me.


    It's not super fast on my G5 setup too, but I would call it quite playable (video here).


    Well yeah
    It's playable but it should run faster with a quad g5 and x1950 config
    I think it wasn't optimized properly.
  • »18.04.25 - 05:48
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    Krisz
    Posts: 154 from 2023/3/22
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    Lord76 wrote:
    This card is my working card: https://www.ebay.de/itm/297189096831?_skw=TP-LINK+TG-3468&epid=2255327262&itmmeta=01JRXKBJR0A8DTRSFZX8697ZYF&hash=item4531d9bd7f:g:r3AAAOSwDo1n83n8&itmprp=enc%3AAQAKAAAA8FkggFvd1GGDu0w3yXCmi1dE50ZICNIbFdA2Qhp8ygL%2B3%2BZUQuv%2Fjf4OKSeHgaL%2FDiNTteHgdC6iQaORAyrzzlntPRMErqxjTzsutLXGfIMJ63HiA3amwRto1T7EkTaeTrtRLGRQzS0rInTTMK7b0Jn411JzmN4QBhKOM95sS2VDRAtuhHPg%2FLGXc29Y1EqtyQA1m5GaqrLVSfgAH1jg%2FdF5YzhhXhS93%2F0ZCbd7C2ZlyPO%2B5XRvh5RetUhmBMup9y4NgOXXWrc1DaBmOsYj7K00s6O6Ed4TH0QukpoCO76QLdZpC0lDi4NhM3fMOmdu%2Bw%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6CsrrPHZQ


    Thanks

    Here on the forum, one user said this card works too

    AzureWave AW-GE870 B/G PCI-E
    Could anyone confirm this?
  • »18.04.25 - 05:56
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    Krisz
    Posts: 154 from 2023/3/22
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    matt3 wrote:
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    Kronos wrote:
    @matt3

    If it is a 4k you should go with FullHD to avoid fractional scaling.




    Looks good to me, and the extra space makes a nice difference with Iris and Pagestream.

    PolyOrga is on the other display at 1080P, frankly I would like to have 1200 on that screen as well.

    Anything higher resolution it gets harder to read without glasses...


    I don't like higher resolutions either because of the small characters
    FullHD is more than enough for me
  • »18.04.25 - 06:00
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2499 from 2003/2/24
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    Krisz wrote:

    I don't like higher resolutions either because of the small characters
    FullHD is more than enough for me



    Running at 3440x1440 is quite a blast.

    And of course I had to increase the font sizes by a bit, ain't 20 anymore.....
  • »18.04.25 - 07:01
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    Krisz
    Posts: 154 from 2023/3/22
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    Kronos wrote:
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    Krisz wrote:

    I don't like higher resolutions either because of the small characters
    FullHD is more than enough for me



    Running at 3440x1440 is quite a blast.

    And of course I had to increase the font sizes by a bit, ain't 20 anymore.....




    I have some full cd games that I used on my old PPC Amiga
    and I would like to get them to work somehow, the only problem is that as far as I know, some of them used the AGA video processor and I don't know if it's possible to use them on MorphOS without an Amiga emulator
    I don't want to use an Amiga emulator on an Amiga compatible system because then I can do it on MacOS too
    I already know that some old Amiga games have been ported to Morphos.
    But what about games with Aga and cybergraphx systems?
  • »18.04.25 - 08:15
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2499 from 2003/2/24
    If they are really "PPC-era" (aka 97 or younger) games they should be using RTG and AHI and in theory they should work.

    Reality is that plenty of those still had some code hitting chip men or HW register for obscure reason. Some have been patched later on, others may have a proper MorphOS replacement binary.

    No way of knowing without listing the exact games you wann play.
  • »18.04.25 - 08:49
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    Krisz
    Posts: 154 from 2023/3/22
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    Kronos wrote:
    If they are really "PPC-era" (aka 97 or younger) games they should be using RTG and AHI and in theory they should work.

    Reality is that plenty of those still had some code hitting chip men or HW register for obscure reason. Some have been patched later on, others may have a proper MorphOS replacement binary.

    No way of knowing without listing the exact games you wann play.



    Thanks

    I already listed the games in a previous answer
    but for example I tried the game called virtua ball fighter on my G4 mac and I couldn't start it because the system was missing something
    but if I manage to buy a network card I will try again on my G5

    https://allegro.hu/ajanlat/azurewave-halozati-kartya-aw-ge870-b-g-pci-e-x1-16380693286

    Or

    https://www.arukereso.hu/halozati-kartya-c3658/tp-link/tg-3468-p38246755/
  • »18.04.25 - 09:29
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12435 from 2003/5/22
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    > as far as I know, some of them used the AGA video
    > processor and I don't know if it's possible to use
    > them on MorphOS without an Amiga emulator
    > […] what about games with Aga and cybergraphx systems?

    Games with AGA/ECS/OCS as hard requirement (i.e. without optional RTG/RTA mode) don't work on MorphOS (except maybe on PowerUP systems).
  • »18.04.25 - 10:49
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    Krisz
    Posts: 154 from 2023/3/22
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > as far as I know, some of them used the AGA video
    > processor and I don't know if it's possible to use
    > them on MorphOS without an Amiga emulator
    > […] what about games with Aga and cybergraphx systems?

    Games with AGA/ECS/OCS as hard requirement (i.e. without optional RTG/RTA mode) don't work on MorphOS (except maybe on PowerUP systems).


    Thanks

    It doesn't matter because most games are written for warp os and tinygl is there for that
  • »18.04.25 - 16:47
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12435 from 2003/5/22
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    > most games are written for warp os and tinygl is there for that

    Just to avoid some misconceptions:
    The WarpOS/WarpUP compatibility layer has not been named AFAIK. The Warp3D compatibility layer is named Goa3D (or just Goa) and works through Rave3D on Radeon R100/R200. I guess your mention of TinyGL in that context refers to Wazp3D's TinyGL renderer. And if that's not enough, TinyRave (#6) has been announced, a Rave3D wrapper sitting atop TinyGL, enabling Goa3D to run on Radeon R300 and newer.
  • »18.04.25 - 17:17
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    Krisz
    Posts: 154 from 2023/3/22
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > most games are written for warp os and tinygl is there for that

    Just to avoid some misconceptions:
    The WarpOS/WarpUP compatibility layer has not been named AFAIK. The Warp3D compatibility layer is named Goa3D (or just Goa) and works through Rave3D on Radeon R100/R200. I guess your mention of TinyGL in that context refers to Wazp3D's TinyGL renderer. And if that's not enough, TinyRave (#6) has been announced, a Rave3D wrapper sitting atop TinyGL, enabling Goa3D to run on Radeon R300 and newer.


    Yes, I thought so
    I've been no using Amiga for a long time and I've forgotten almost everything
    the great news is that they are continuing to develop TinyGL
    I am considering registering MorphOS which is currently version 3.18
    the question is if I upgrade later to version 4.xx will the registration still be valid or will I need to register again?
  • »18.04.25 - 17:27
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2499 from 2003/2/24
    Key is bound to the HW (motherboard) and last forever.

    My Peg2 keyfile bought directly on the 2.0 release is still valid.
  • »18.04.25 - 17:31
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    Krisz
    Posts: 154 from 2023/3/22
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    Kronos wrote:
    Key is bound to the HW (motherboard) and last forever.

    My Peg2 keyfile bought directly on the 2.0 release is still valid.


    Thanks

    Now I just need to order a working ethernet or wifi card
  • »18.04.25 - 17:54
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    Krisz
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    Kronos wrote:
    Bought this one of amazon

    Still need to figure out that AirPort antenna.


    What you linked seems to be compatible with MorphOS
    I just don't see the type
    It might be easier to buy a pci-e Wifi card, right?
    then you shouldn't have to worry about the antenna output
  • »19.04.25 - 03:52
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    Kronos
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    Krisz wrote:

    What you linked seems to be compatible with MorphOS
    I just don't see the type
    It might be easier to buy a pci-e Wifi card, right?
    then you shouldn't have to worry about the antenna output


    It's:
    GLOTRENDS LE8111H Gigabit PCIe Ethernet Netzwerkkarte, RTL8111H and it for sure works.

    As for my AirPort adventure, the way is the goal.

    That and the fact that I would need to remove either the NVidia or ethernet card to make room for a wifi card.
  • »19.04.25 - 04:00
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    Krisz
    Posts: 154 from 2023/3/22
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    Kronos wrote:
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    Krisz wrote:

    What you linked seems to be compatible with MorphOS
    I just don't see the type
    It might be easier to buy a pci-e Wifi card, right?
    then you shouldn't have to worry about the antenna output


    It's:
    GLOTRENDS LE8111H Gigabit PCIe Ethernet Netzwerkkarte, RTL8111H and it for sure works.

    As for my AirPort adventure, the way is the goal.

    That and the fact that I would need to remove either the NVidia or ethernet card to make room for a wifi card.





    Thanks!
    Then I'll look for this card, I can get it within the country and I don't have to wait for the long shipping time
    The airport antenna cannot be routed to the top of the machine? , where the cdrom is located.
    Or maybe the wire wouldn't be long enough
    I have no idea what it looks like
  • »19.04.25 - 04:08
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    Kronos
    Posts: 2499 from 2003/2/24
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    Krisz wrote:

    The airport antenna cannot be routed to the top of the machine? , where the cdrom is located.
    Or maybe the wire wouldn't be long enough
    I have no idea what it looks like


    Sure I could hack up something fast with the antenna from the QuickSilver routing it to the outside. It's just no priority at the moment as the G5 is placed pretty close to the network switch anyways.
  • »19.04.25 - 04:11
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    Kronos
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    Krisz wrote:

    I found a card but it has a different IC



    I see the same card with the same 8111H chip.
  • »19.04.25 - 04:34
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    Krisz
    Posts: 154 from 2023/3/22
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    Kronos wrote:
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    Krisz wrote:

    I found a card but it has a different IC



    I see the same card with the same 8111H chip.


    The chip number is different
    but according to the datasheet it is RTL8111H so I guess that's the point
    I'll order it
    Thank you for your help.
  • »19.04.25 - 09:25
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    Krisz
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    I cancelled the card
    I only found it on Amazon and the postage is six times the price of the card :(
    Now I have no idea what card to buy that is compatible ?
  • »19.04.25 - 15:18
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    ChrisC
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    I am using an TP-Link TG-3468 Rev 2, works perfectly.

    https://www.cablemonkey.co.uk/exclude/3828-tp-link-gigabit-pci-express-network-adapter-6935364001049.html

    £20
    Power Mac G5 11,2 Dual 2GHz
    ATI X1950 Pro 256MB
    2GB RAM
    500GB Storage
    MorphOS 3.19 (Licenced)
  • »19.04.25 - 15:28
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    Krisz
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    ChrisC wrote:
    I am using an TP-Link TG-3468 Rev 2, works perfectly.

    https://www.cablemonkey.co.uk/exclude/3828-tp-link-gigabit-pci-express-network-adapter-6935364001049.html

    £20


    Thanks
    I'll try this card

    Does MorphOS recognize it right away or do I need to set it up or a driver?
  • »19.04.25 - 15:41
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