lol, just had to use the same topic..

Im really confused about all this OS stuff back and foward..
and a little pissed too, why the @#*%#) is every thing in a kind of trauma? AmigaOS 4 in one coner and MorphOS in the other. Now suddenly Amiga Inc come and say there gonna release Amiga OS 5.
Is this a attempt to destroy the last of the community, by splitting us into so many groups that we cant create or make anything useful.

I would like to see the Amiga/MorphOS community work together to create something GREAT,
something electric

If we as users ever wanna see Amiga reborn, we better stop excepting that people or company's make our community worse.
And start rejecting the stupid ideas of these people.

Other people and old amiga users see this "trauma" and they just quess the amiga community is dead.
because of this they don't come back to the community and they don't buy new Amigas.

THIS REALLY HURTS OUR COMMUNITY!

Red And Blue, Unite And Be A Crew, Control Our Dreams And Make Our Crew!

X

"I would like to see the Amiga/MorphOS community work together to create something GREAT,
something electric"

a dishwasher? theres already a bounty for this.

Release Q1 2008

Sure it would be nice. But some people are just like subborn childs in this question.
I like MorphOS very much just because its NOT made by a big commercial company but pre-amigausers that actually listens to what the users and community are saying.

Amiga Inc realease AOS5......yeahh...........sure. And Microsoft will release OS6..............

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And we do like announcements, dont we

But, if it exist and work, on which kind of machine will it work ? And which app will work ?

@XzIt : MOS works well even on my 1260PPC, and is more compatible than OS4 with old PPC programs

[ Edited by CLS2086 on 2008/1/3 21:13 ]

@Xzit

Even if they DO announce OS5, it is just an announcement (and can you really believe anything Amiga Inc. says ? No I didn't think so).

And even IF they release this "OS5", I highly doubt it will be anything at all based on Amiga OS 3.x or even 4.x. It will probably be some lame AmigaAnywhere/DE crap which none of us have any interest in.

Which means this "OS5" announcement is nothing more than uninteresting fluff.

"listens to what the users and community are saying."

They do? How can you tell? I'm told MorphOS is great (and I'm even inclined to believe it) but it's juts another closed source project dying a slow and painful death.

As for AOS5, if only I had sufficient expletives...

@ausPPC
For one thing. MorphOS is made in spare time.

And they are here on this forum answering questions and discuss with people that use it. I think its good to have this connection between the developers and the users.

You are told MorhOS is great?
Try it out and find for your self, its a really nice hobbie OS :)
If you are so sure this is a dying project why bother at all?
MorphOS works just fine on my A1200.



[ Edited by Charvel on 2008/1/4 6:00 ]

Charvel:
"And they are here on this forum answering questions and discuss with people that use it. I think its good to have this connection between the developers and the users."

"Good"?! That's pretty much a requirement in the age of
Web 2.0. Unless you missed it, you can have the exact same
- or probably even better - interaction with Microsoft and
Apple developers..

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Will never happen. Because Amiga wants users to buy their hardware & software ( Amiga OS ). Just how Macintosh wants people to buy Intel Macs to run Mac OS X. Same old story.

Little history. Back in the day there was an OS called BeOS. It was first made for m68K & PowerMacs. But Macintosh would not release hardware specs / info and so BeOS could not be made to run on G3 & G4. After which, BeOS switched gears and was made for X86 hardware instead. Because companies like Macintosh & Amiga want people to only use their hardware & software which gives them total control over the user.

At one time I recall that Genesi wanted to release Amiga OS4 for Efika.

http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17067/Genesi-We-Will-Release-Both-AmigaOS4-and-MorphOS

But this won't ever happen because Amiga owns OS4 and can take legal action. And Amiga will never agree to releasing OS4 for Efika. Because they don't want to compete with MorphOS or lose users to it.

I say that AmigaOS is done. Forget about them. They've had their time and it has passed. You are better off staying with MorphOS which is the better way to go.

ausPPC wrote:
I'm told MorphOS is great (and I'm even inclined to believe it) but it's juts another closed source project dying a slow and painful death.

You said it perfectly. I have not tried MorphOS myself but it looked very good from what I've seen too.

But OSes that are closed source have drawbacks. First they may start off "free" to attract users and are not worth charging for when they first come out. Then when the OS becomes mature and complex (ie: good enough ) they switch over to a pay system. With drawbacks ( inherent in closed source ):

Only a few developers to program the closed source OS which leads to taking lots & lots of time to do stuff ( look how long it is taking to release MorphOS 2 ), supports less hardware and/or features and attracts less new programers compared to having an open source version.

I see you guys begun replying my post.
Good

i made this post, because we need to stop splitting up.
this is a reminder of Atari's last days.
splitting into clones and to be honest im scared!
scared to see my dream go down the toilet washed away with time.

X

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Sorry? The splitting happened years ago already. Its 2008, 2007 went already, as did 2006 and 2005

Thats the words of a beaten man...
You ever been Man handled?

I will not silently stand by while we split maybe 2-3 more times.

Does any like to wait 1-2 years for new os updates?

X

"You ever been Man handled?"

I'm sorry if I don't understand.. but is that like
bending over?.. :)

Yes, I have noticed that on the one hand MorphOS is a hobby OS made in spare time but on the other hand it is going to be a commercial product. What's the bet that one of the key factors holding back MorphOS 2 is the devs' reluctance to deal with new users' increased expectations of support after they've paid the likely 100 to 200 euros? The amount of work involved in a subset of the devs simply taking money from customers, keying each download/cd to only work on that customer's motherboard and the human error that will creep into that process probably makes them want to take up a less demanding hobby.

I came to this party late and not knowing that MorphOS 2 had already been stalled for years. At first I was keen and I wanted to use MorphOS on my own Efika. Now I just want to sell my last 13 Efika boards without making too much of a loss.

@ausPPC
Can't say what they'll charge for MOS2. It could be anything, ie: $20, 50, 100, etc.. Have to wait & see what happens.

MOS2 probably will come out by March 2008 as indicated in one of the threads on here. But date can always change to later one.

Yes, it has been a long time. The last version, 1.4.5 was released in Feb 2006 - 2 years ago. Someone really dropped the ball here because Efika support should have been added to MorphOS & released as 1.4.x or 1.5 so that those with Efika wouldn't have to wait, wait & wait. I believe Efika was released for sale in Dec 2006? And those with Efika didn't even get to try out MorphOS at all & now they'll end up paying for it.

Right now, Efikas are going for $99. Hopefully you got yours at that price. If you paid $240, then you'd probably be better off waiting for these to clear out & then put yours up for sale.

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Im married to a woman

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How can you split a zero?

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No, of course not. But bitching about it wont make new updates either. Your ONLY option is to sit and wait.