Help please! Can i buy this emac?
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    maurensen
    Posts: 358 from 2003/10/3
    From: Padova - Italy
    I've found a cheap eMac G4 to buy, but it's the 1.42ghz model.
    It's equipped with a radeon card but I see in Morphos site that this model is not tested...
    Anyone please know if this model will work with MorphOS?
    Thanx in advance.
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  • »06.11.10 - 10:54
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
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    Dunno, but if you do buy it and it works, please tell the rest of us. I suppose at least you can demo MorphOS out for free..
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    maurensen
    Posts: 358 from 2003/10/3
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    I'm tempted to burn an image of morphos ISO and try it at seller's home but i don't know if he let me poke with OF before buying this baby... :-)
    Can someone help me & tell how can I try on the fly if MorphOS boots in this machine?
    2 years have passed since i sold my peg so I'm a little bit disappointed on how to do this... :-)
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  • »06.11.10 - 11:18
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    Put the CD in and restart it on holding the c key, if that dosn't work for some reason, hold down the 'alt' key and select it off the early boot menu..

    I think that's right, I shall try it on my (1.25, unregistered) eMac I got cheapish..

    [ Edited by stephen_robinson on 2010/11/6 19:19 ]
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    maurensen
    Posts: 358 from 2003/10/3
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    Thanx Stephen, if I'll not get an answer here, I'll try to convince the seller to let me try to boot morphos from the CD...
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
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    Just tried it with 'c', working fine off CD boots in about the same time as Tiger off hard drive(!), I had to manually go to utilities/commodities to get shiftclick working for the daft 1 button mac-mouse, as to get the intenet working I have to manualy put in the DNS server as the same IP address as my router for the internet to work.

    You may not have to do that, but sound.internet browsing all seems to work from the 2.6 CD..

    So well, go for it!

    Also check how loud the fan is, I find my eMac a bit noisy, not too mention, quite increadably heavy!

    Also check if it's got 64/32MB of Video ram, it really makes a difference with MorphOS, if you want to run muliple screens.

    [ Edited by stephen_robinson on 2010/11/6 15:55 ]
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > I've found a cheap eMac G4 to buy, but it's the 1.42ghz model. [...]
    > Anyone please know if this model will work with MorphOS?

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7271&forum=3&post_id=75317#75317
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > So well, go for it!

    You have a 1.42 GHz eMac like the thread opener asked about?

    > check if it's got 64/32MB of Video ram

    The 1.42 GHz eMac has 64 MiB VRAM while the 1.25 GHz model, which is explicitly supported by MorphOS, has 32 MiB VRAM.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    maurensen
    Posts: 358 from 2003/10/3
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    @Andreas:
    I was hoping for you to answer my question :-)

    Yes, it's the 1.45ghz with 64 meg video card so, as far as I can understood, no way to boot Morpos :-(

    Let's seek for another one then...

    Thanx Andreas for your kind answer and others in this 3d

    [ Edited by maurensen on 2010/11/6 20:14 ]
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  • »06.11.10 - 15:14
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
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    Sorry, for the misunderstanding, I've got a 1.25 with 32MB Graphics memory version.

    A quick look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMac it's got a ATI Radeon 9600, which is supported, without 3d hardware acceleration.

    So it could be fine, I'd be tempted just to try with a MorphOS CD in and see if it works.
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    amigadave
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    maurensen wrote:
    I've found a cheap eMac G4 to buy, but it's the 1.42ghz model.
    It's equipped with a radeon card but I see in Morphos site that this model is not tested...
    Anyone please know if this model will work with MorphOS?
    Thanx in advance.


    With the huge numbers of the 1.42GHz G4 eMac's that were used in school computer labs and are now being retired, or were retired during the past 12 months or so, I find it hard to believe that nobody has yet tried to install MorphOS2.5, or 2.6 on such an eMac and that it remains "untested".

    I guess nobody wants to waste their time and/or money buying a 1.42GHz G4 eMac to test running MorphOS2.5, or 2.6 on since they probably have a G4 MacMini, or G4 PowerMac tower, and they don't want to bother with the extremely heavy and hard to upgrade the hard drive, G4 eMac, when for about the same money, they can get a G4 PowerMac tower that is more expandable and easier to upgrade.

    Still, it would seem that someone would have already had the opportunity to find a 1.42GHz G4 eMac at a friends house, or somewhere else and stick a MorphOS2.5/2.6 install CD into it before now.

    Not a big deal to me, as I have all the MorphOS2.x computers I will need for the next few years, but it would be nice to be able to answer questions like the one posted by the OP in this thread.
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  • »06.11.10 - 16:05
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    maurensen
    Posts: 358 from 2003/10/3
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    amigadave wrote:


    With the huge numbers of the 1.42GHz G4 eMac's that were used in school computer labs and are now being retired, or were retired during the past 12 months or so, I find it hard to believe that nobody has yet tried to install MorphOS2.5, or 2.6 on such an eMac and that it remains "untested".

    I guess nobody wants to waste their time and/or money buying a 1.42GHz G4 eMac to test running MorphOS2.5, or 2.6 on since they probably have a G4 MacMini, or G4 PowerMac tower, and they don't want to bother with the extremely heavy and hard to upgrade the hard drive, G4 eMac, when for about the same money, they can get a G4 PowerMac tower that is more expandable and easier to upgrade.



    You are right, I don't want to spend 200euro only to find at home that my emac is not supported :-)
    I'll hold my breath and wait for a powerMac but I'm very tired because after 3 years and a broken powerbook that costs me 450euros I want to return to use morphOS as soon as possible.
    Too bad there are so many cheap imac G4 still unsupported :-(
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    amigadave
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    @maurensen,

    "Too bad there are so many cheap imac G4 still unsupported"

    That is one way to look at it, but I prefer to see it the opposite way. Look at how many newly supported Mac PPC models HAVE BEEN recently supported since MorphOS2.4 gave us support for the G4 MacMini!

    I think the MorphOS Dev Team has done a great job in giving us the huge number of computers that they are already supporting and continue to expand that support to other models. When the support of the Mac G4 PowerBook is finally finished, it is going to blow the AmigaOS/MorphOS users away. The 1.67GHz G4 PowerBook is a great machine and noticeably faster than my 1.5GHz G4 MacMini. The fact that it will be the first PPC laptop for Amiga users (that I know of), should create a good deal of interest and excitement (and hopefully new MorphOS2.x registrations).
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    stephen_robinson
    Posts: 746 from 2007/4/22
    I'm gaggin for the powerbook release, I have to admit I did buy one, (knowing?) Hoping for a MorphOS release, although MacOSX is (for me anyway) a passable substitute.

    But please get a move on!
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    maurensen
    Posts: 358 from 2003/10/3
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    Also I'd like to buy a powerbook but at least here in Italy they are slightly expansive than g4 towers and, afaik, the 90% of PBs suffer of video problems like the one i bought last years. So buying a +400 euro machine that almost surely will have a broken video output is not exactly a great move... So I think I'll go for a desktop this time.
    Just my opinion
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    amigadave
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    @maurensen,

    I'm not aware of any PowerBook video problem. Which one did you buy for 400 euros last year? If you, or anyone else that cannot find G4 Mac computers at good prices in their countries, or cities wants help getting one from the USA, let me know. The problem with this idea is that most countries customs agents will try to charge large fees to get any computer shipped into the country from here and I can't send everything as a gift without getting in trouble myself.

    Certain Mac G4 models can be found here for very low prices and it might make it worth while for buyers to visit here and take them back in their luggage, stating that they brought them with them from home, instead of buying them here. A good excuse to visit the USA and see any of the sights here at the same time, or attend next year's AmiWest 2011 Show.

    I don't blame you for deciding to choose a G4 PowerMac tower instead. They are a good choice and can accept many upgrades and optional PCI cards. The best thing to happen for MorphOS since support for the G4 MacMini was released with MorphOS2.4 last year.
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  • »06.11.10 - 18:51
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    maurensen
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    Afaik many powerbooks suffers of a video related problem. Mine had a video corruption due to the defective internal video connector, a failure common in these models due to open/close of monitor after some years.
    I'd like to have another portable machine to run MorphOS but it seems this problem is very common in pb and it may happens from a day to another without advice...
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > I find it hard to believe that nobody has yet tried to
    > install MorphOS2.5, or 2.6 on such an eMac and that it
    > remains "untested". [...] it would seem that someone would
    > have already had the opportunity to find a 1.42GHz G4 eMac
    > at a friends house, or somewhere else and stick a
    > MorphOS2.5/2.6 install CD into it before now.

    Obviously, you didn't follow my link ;-)
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > Too bad there are so many cheap imac G4 still unsupported :-(

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6051&forum=32&post_id=59783#59783
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > The problem with this idea is that most countries
    > customs agents will try to charge large fees to get
    > any computer shipped into the country from here

    At least in the EU there's no import tax on computers.
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    amigadave
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    Quote:


    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    Obviously, you didn't follow my link ;-)


    Where in your linked thread (which is this same thread) is my question answered? stephon-robinson's eMac turned out to be the 1.25Ghz model that is supported, not the 1.42GHz model that is "still untested".
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  • »07.11.10 - 02:46
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    amigadave
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    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > The problem with this idea is that most countries
    > customs agents will try to charge large fees to get
    > any computer shipped into the country from here

    At least in the EU there's no import tax on computers.


    Tell that to the guy in Germany that just bought my A2500 and had to pay an additional $100 to customs before he could get possession of it.
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  • »07.11.10 - 02:49
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    maurensen
    Posts: 358 from 2003/10/3
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    @Andreas
    Oh I see, damn Ge Force :-)
    I can imagine how triky should be for mos team to support so many configurations made by Apple during the years!

    Thanx again to all for your kind answers.
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  • »07.11.10 - 05:47
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    maurensen
    Posts: 358 from 2003/10/3
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    amigadave wrote:

    Where in your linked thread (which is this same thread) is my question answered? stephon-robinson's eMac turned out to be the 1.25Ghz model that is supported, not the 1.42GHz model that is "still untested".

    From what I understand in the thread posted by Andreas it's stated that the 1.42ghz model won't boot...
    Or maybe I'm understanding wrong... the thread is long and clearly english is not my primary language :-)

    [ Edited by maurensen on 2010/11/7 8:58 ]
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > Where in your linked thread (which is this same thread) is my
    > question answered?

    I answered maurensen's opening question with a link, which you obviously ignored (now twice). The second time I linked to that very answer of mine. I didn't think that having to go in two steps to the message could be overtaxing ;-)
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