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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    Hi folks,

    Just tried swapping my Radeon 8500 for an agp Voodoo 3 I received from
    ebay (2nd hand but allegedly working).
    All I get is a black screen - no OF, nothing.

    Does this mean the Voodoo is a dodo?
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  • »28.11.03 - 17:35
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    warface
    Posts: 653 from 2003/2/24
    From: Hungary
    Have you checked if it's properly installed? Is the monitor connected to the card? (at times I manage to miss this very important step and sit confused for a moment :-))

    If the Voodoo is a working one, it have to work without any further hassles. (I regularly swap my radeon and voodoo when demoing this and that, but for home I stick to my radeon, despite the lack of Warp3D support)
  • »28.11.03 - 18:13
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    peg4a
    Posts: 26 from 2003/4/15
    Powermac G5
    2,3 giga mono processor. HDD : 750 Go sata ATI 9800 XT 256 mo.
    Morphos 3.4 ;)
  • »28.11.03 - 19:23
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    Hi Warface,

    I think I checked everything. I swopped it back and forth with the
    radeon a few times in succession. Radeon output gfx, voodoo didn't.

    My g/f's old pc has no agp so I can't test it there.
    I could test it in the A1 but I don't have a case for that at the
    moment.
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  • »29.11.03 - 11:14
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    @peg4a:

    I feared it might be something like that. Oh well, guess I'll just
    have to punt it back to e-bay. :-(
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  • »29.11.03 - 11:18
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  • Targhan
    Posts: 2833 from 2003/2/8
    From: USA
    Could it be a radeon for a mac? I think they are different somehow, and may not work.
    :idea:Targhan

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  • »29.11.03 - 18:56
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Dietmar
    Posts: 114 from 2003/2/26
    From: Aachen, Germany
    >Just tried swapping my Radeon 8500 for an agp Voodoo 3

    Why would you want to do that? Voodoo cards seem to be significantly slower for desktop use than Radeon cards. I get complaints from Voodoo users that window switching of my software is too slow (it defaults to SMARTREFRESH windows). A Radeon 7500 has no such problem, window switching occurs instantly even with ten such windows.
  • »29.11.03 - 20:41
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Jupp3
    Posts: 1193 from 2003/2/24
    From: Helsinki, Finland
    Quote:

    Could it be a radeon for a mac?

    Wasn't it the Voodoo, that was notworking?
  • »29.11.03 - 20:43
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 732 from 2003/2/24
    From: aGaS & CUAZ Al...
    I had a similar problem with my Voodoo3500. The screen is black in the openfirmware screen, but the computer boots anyway. I did the modifications to boot from hard disk with a virge and later plugged the V3. I don't have visible OF but I don't care much, my computer boots MOS without problems.
  • »30.11.03 - 12:04
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  • Cocoon
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    Madgun68
    Posts: 60 from 2003/4/16
    From: Spokane, Washi...
    This may or may not help, but is there a pci card in the slot next to the agp slot? When I had my agp radeon card and a pci card next to it, I had serious stability problems.
  • »30.11.03 - 12:33
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    @Dietmar:

    I should be able to see Pro Station Audio properly with a Voodoo.
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  • »30.11.03 - 13:36
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    @Crumb:

    Which modifications did you make to boot from HD?
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  • »30.11.03 - 13:39
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    OK - it gets weirder.

    I got a case for my Amiga1 and the Voodoo works with it.
    (Well, I haven't connected a CDROM or HD yet but I get the 3dfx OF
    screen.)

    :-?
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  • »04.12.03 - 17:36
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 732 from 2003/2/24
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    mmm it could be that your voodoo doesn't fit very well in the agp slot due to your case and it doesn't make good contact.

    About the auto boot... you have to write some lines in the smart firmware prompt... I can't remember the lines but remember that you have to write correctly the partition and the ide unit, the document is available in the genesi's ftp.
  • »05.12.03 - 23:03
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    Quote:

    mmm it could be that your voodoo doesn't fit very well in the agp slot due to your case and it doesn't make good contact.


    If it was due to the case, wouldn't the Radeon be similarly affected?
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  • »08.12.03 - 11:45
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 732 from 2003/2/24
    From: aGaS & CUAZ Al...
    Gfx cards aren't exactly the same size... try to put the gfx card without screws but put it firmly to see if it makes contact correctly. If it does you may have to bend slightly the metal piece to make it fit better.

    It happened me with a Voodoo3 3000 on my peecee... the V3 didn't make good contact but TNT2M64, Intel740,Trident3D,Trio3D and GeForce2MX fitted perfectly. I simply bent a little the metal to make it fit correctly in the AGP slot and to be able to put the screw correctly.
  • »09.12.03 - 10:50
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    @crumb:

    Thanks for the tip. After much fiddling, I got it to work.

    Now I've forgotten how to reset the screenmode to 1024x768 (yet again :roll: ) *and* my modem now makes a screeching sound on boot up which is *very* weird.
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  • »16.12.03 - 22:03
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  • HAK
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    Posts: 225 from 2003/2/24
    From: Austria, Vienna
    @ crumb,


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    Now I've forgotten how to reset the screenmode to 1024x768 (yet again )



    If you are talking about screenmodes in Ambient then
    a) check Settings/System settings.../ModeEdit whether you have alredy defined a screenmode you wish to use

    b) check Settings/System settings.../Screenmode and edit the Ambient settings to the desired screenmode




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    *and* my modem now makes a screeching sound on boot up which is *very* weird.



    Just a really wild guess: Is your modem connected to the serial port? If yes it *might* be that some debug information will be sent to it.
    You can sent debug information to ram by setting the option "ramdebug" to your boot-file settings in OF (e.g. setenv boot-file boot.img ramdebug).



    Bye HAK
  • »16.12.03 - 23:01
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    Robert
    Posts: 331 from 2003/5/12
    @HAK:

    Quote:


    If you are talking about screenmodes in Ambient then
    a) check Settings/System settings.../ModeEdit whether you have alredy defined a screenmode you wish to use

    b) check Settings/System settings.../Screenmode and edit the Ambient settings to the desired screenmode




    I managed to get that sorted eventually. Not sure what I was doing wrong there.


    Quote:

    Just a really wild guess: Is your modem connected to the serial port?



    Yes.

    Quote:


    If yes it *might* be that some debug information will be sent to it.


    Ahh - why would this not happen with the Radeon?

    Quote:

    You can sent debug information to ram by setting the option "ramdebug" to your boot-file settings in OF (e.g. setenv boot-file boot.img ramdebug).


    Thanks. I'll try that tonight. :pint:
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Crumb
    Posts: 732 from 2003/2/24
    From: aGaS & CUAZ Al...
    @Robert:
    "Thanks for the tip. After much fiddling, I got it to work."

    that's great! :-D

    BTW I would suggest to the MOS team to put an option to force ambiant to open a screen in 640x480 and 60hz pressing a key or something similar... if you save a wrong configuration or if you change your monitor you end up without the possibility of changing the screenmode easily.
  • »17.12.03 - 14:11
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