PegXLin problems
  • Just looking around
    Posts: 13 from 2003/2/28
    Hi Guys,

    I am trying to install PegXLin (or any Linux/UNIX/whatever) on my Peg, and am having no end of problems.

    First I try to boot of CD, it's having none of it, so I try to boot the kernel of my MorphOS drive, it boots.

    Follow the instructions, and eventually get it to install.

    Crashes on startup, find out the kernel on my MorphOS partition is corrupted (TIP: don't copy using Ambient, use the shell and it's OK).

    It gets a bit further now, but won't mount the root drive, it thinks it corrupted.

    I try to format the drive from scratch, the Debian installer won't recognize that I even have a Hard Drive, even though it just booted from it. This problem seems related to amiga-fdisk.

    I have also tried Gentoo, and pretty much everything else and have one problem after another.

    I think my hardware might be screwed up, as MorphOS is very, very unreliable, this might be normal, I don't know.

    Is there a good HOWTO on installing a linux (or BSD) on the peg?

    Is it just me having all these problems, or are other people? If so, how did you solve them?

    I don't mind wiping my HD, I just want a working OS on it!

    Thanks

    Moray
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    warface
    Posts: 653 from 2003/2/24
    From: Hungary
    What is your configuration? Have you tried the beta2linux mailing list?
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    realstar
    Posts: 298 from 2003/2/24
    From: Canada
    If you do a fresh install of MorphOS 1.4 and are
    having problems something must be wrong as it
    should run quite stable. Are you using an older Peg
    without April fixes? (could be an issue)

    For PegXLin I suggest copying the "install" and
    "pegxlin" images to your "boot image" partition
    first. Setup the "Linux" and "Swap" partitions
    using MorphOS with correct maxtransfer and
    filesystem ids.

    Then Format the drives from the Debian
    "install" image. After executing "hdinstall" from
    the debian command line it should be ok when
    finished...

    Also be sure to pass the root=/dev/hdxx
    when starting PegXLin or it will not mount
    the partition.
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    DJBase
    Posts: 745 from 2003/4/6
    From: Germany
    I tried many Linux verions on Pegasos and overall Linux is crap and useless. Now I can understand why Linux isnt a success on the desktop market. I hope OpenBeOS for Pegasos will come out shortless.
    Mac mini, PowerPC G4 1.5 GHz, ATI Radeon 9200 64 MB, 1 GB RAM, 80 GB HDD, MorphOS 3.18
    PowerBook, PowerPC G4 1.67 GHz, ATI Radeon 9700 128 MB, 2 GB RAM, 250 GB mSATA HDD, MorphOS 3.18
  • »12.10.03 - 16:40
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  • Just looking around
    Posts: 13 from 2003/2/28
    Hi,

    Thanks very much for the replies, I don't think I have the April fixes, the MorphOS unreliabilty is mostly with Ambient, the apps seem OK.

    I was setting up the Linux and swap partitions with the debian stuff, not MorphOS, maybe that's what I'm doing wrong. Are instructions available on how to do it in MorphOS?

    Thanks

    Moray
  • »12.10.03 - 16:42
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  • Targhan
    Posts: 2833 from 2003/2/8
    From: USA
    The readme on the pegxlin cd has instructions for setting up from MorphOS.
    :idea:Targhan

    MorphOS portal? www.MorphZone.org
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    Posts: 90 from 2003/4/13
    <overall Linux is crap and useless> :-(?
    That's your opinion. And I would add such as imho.
    Millions are satisfied ppl imho , tho I have to admit that there is room for improvement in Linux. I installed Linux3 years ago and rebooted only a couple of times. So if that's crap. Maybe you need a closer look into Linux and maybe it could be your own mind that's a little narrow.
    Anyway good luck with your rebooting sequences and may you see the light in the future.
    regs
    hgm
    :-)
    (Maybe you confuse things with THE crap.)
  • »12.10.03 - 18:19
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  • Targhan
    Posts: 2833 from 2003/2/8
    From: USA
    I hate linux when it does things I don't want it to do... Or doesn't do things that I want it to do. When it runs fine, I like it fine. :-)

    However, I agree that linux can be very top-heavy and as bloated (in some cases moreso) as windows. With that said, it can also be very light too. I suppose it has to do with the *purpose* of a particular linux installation. Linux is insanely configurable, and that configurability is where it bites most users (myself included) in the arse.
    :idea:Targhan

    MorphOS portal? www.MorphZone.org
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    Posts: 90 from 2003/4/13
    Sorry, I am on the wrong site with my comment and I won't harrash you anymore.
    regs
    hgm :-?
  • »12.10.03 - 19:05
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  • Cocoon
    Cocoon
    Posts: 56 from 2003/3/16
    I am trying to install PegXLin (or any Linux/UNIX/whatever) on my Peg, and am having no end of problems.

    First I try to boot of CD, it's having none of it

    It seems that genesis havent burned the image correctly, i'll contact them about it!.


    .

    Crashes on startup, find out the kernel on my MorphOS partition is corrupted (TIP: don't copy using Ambient, use the shell and it's OK).

    I've experienced this same problem (via corrupt bug)




    I think my hardware might be screwed up, as MorphOS is very, very unreliable, this might be normal, I don't know.

    Sounds like you have an early pegasos board (no april chip)


    Is there a good HOWTO on installing a linux (or BSD) on the peg?

    http://uk.geocities.com/david260179


    Is it just me having all these problems, or are other people? If so, how did you solve them?

    Nope we all suffer corruption more so than others
  • »12.10.03 - 20:14
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  • Targhan
    Posts: 2833 from 2003/2/8
    From: USA
    I had no problem with seeing the cdrom from the pegasos. Make sure you open your cdburning software first, then load the iso--don't burn a cd with the file.iso on the disk. treat it like you would an old DMS disk...
    :idea:Targhan

    MorphOS portal? www.MorphZone.org
  • »12.10.03 - 20:49
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    catohagen
    Posts: 297 from 2003/5/20
    I installed Pegxlin yesterday, it took some time to figure
    things out. The resulting cd after burning the pegxlin.iso
    had the filenames with a . in the end, every file, so i
    edited the hdinstall script and changed the filename
    in there to "pegxlin." Then after running the hdinstall
    it installed, but i got a few lines(10-15) of read errors
    from cp (copy command?)
    But linux on pegasos is _very_ slow, its so slow that its
    tempting just to forget about linux on pegasos or a 600mhz
    G3.
    I cant play any movies with Pegxlin either, xine crashes every time, after fiddling a few hours installing Mplayer, i can see the movie but no sound, if i setup mplayer to use alsa sound, the
    sound plays well but picture updates every 10 secs, so its useless.
    It might be just me and my linux setup, but its so slow its
    boring to use, to start a webbrowser takes ages, moving windows makes whole movement to 'stall' waiting to update
    graphics behind the window.
    I have 256mb of ram, it was recommended to have 128mb for
    poweruse, still after a fresh pegxlin boot i have 16mb ram free, but after a visit to control centre and disabling effects and fancy stuff i got 74mb free :-)

    Maybe theres something that can be adjusted to speed up the system but i'm not that familiar with linux administration
    and fine tuning of services, but linux on pegasos was abit of
    a disapointment, it takes ages to load and slow and sluggish to use.
  • »12.10.03 - 21:00
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 157 from 2003/3/3
    catohagen: Many linux boots don't by default enable Level2 cache on
    CPU . that could explain part of slowdown (a big part actually)..
    http://somequicknotes.blogspot.com/index.html
  • »13.10.03 - 00:31
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    catohagen
    Posts: 297 from 2003/5/20
    @JoannaK

    Im booting with
    boot pegxlin root=/dev/hdc1 video=radeon l2cr=0x800000000 ide0=ata66 ide1=ata66
    as the pegxlin docs says.Should anything be different ?

    -edit-
    after googling abit i found a command for checking l2 cache

    debian:~$ cat /proc/sys/kernel/l2cr
    0x00000000: disabled, no parity, 2MB, clock disabled, flow-through burst SRAM, copy-back, 0.5ns hold


    this means l2cache is disabled ? how to find the correct
    value for pegasos cpu ?
  • »13.10.03 - 06:32
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