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[ Edited by Velcro_SP 22.07.2011 - 06:52 ]

I'll pay US$249 for MOS + EFIKA combo.

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Too bad that this price only includes hardware and no software. With the exception of free open source ones perhaps.

@ Velcro_SP

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Noone is forcing Genesi to bundle anything. That is a misunderstanding on your part. But as has been explained before, EFIKA is not considered to have enough market potential for desktop users by the MorphOS Team. This is a fair and valid opinion given the performance provided and its current pricing.

As you obviously know (and probably also a hundred other people by now), the ball is in Genesi's court. The mere fact that there has been no press release announcing a cooperation, simply proves that Genesi in fact agrees very much with the MorphOS Team that there will be insufficient market demand (as defined by the MorphOS developers). Genesi is not willing to take any risks and that should be a perfectly reasonable decision. The same is true for the MorphOS team, however.

Any further discussion of this topic will not help whatsoever. In fact, I would like to suggest that you wait until summer 2007. If EFIKA is available for the announced prices (or lower) by then, it has been successfully established on the market, and you still want to buy one because of a lack of interesting alternatives, feel free and bring this topic up again.

Last but not least, I would like to mention what I had already said on another website not too long ago. If you carefully look at the current situation (Pegasos production possibly being phased out and no interest by MorphOS Team in the EFIKA for desktop users), there are only three different conclusions possible:

a) The MorphOS Team is considerably less intelligent than people posting on internet forums.

b) The MorphOS Team likes to torture its community by developing software for unavailable hardware.

c) The MorphOS Team has much more interesting hardware options than EFIKA as far as desktop computing is cocerned. Nevertheless, the MorphOS Team was kind enough to not deny the creation of a rough MorphOS prototype running on the EFIKA in order to demonstrate how well a proper port might run on this type of hardware.

But how do they say? No good deed goes unpunished...

[ Edited by JoBBo on 2006/10/27 6:31 ]

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Do you mean a non-pegasos or non-amiga classic machine?

Well... even if you only planned a PegasosI/II release I would be glad to see MOS1.5 released

Well, my threshold would be 250Euro. Current exchange rates should allow a bit space here to include some SW

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[ Edited by Velcro_SP 22.07.2011 - 06:51 ]

I'll buy one ...

Velcro: You are entitled to your opinion, but aside from you and 2-3 other loudmouths (sorry I don't mean it as an insult, but you are) I do not see a large interest in the Efika for desktop use. Three people each making lots of posts do not make up a market.

Clearly the reason a 'secret' MOS Efika prototype was done, is that whoever were involved in this port thought that there *might* be some chance of a market outside of the desktop.

As for "other hardware", well.. I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm willing to bet that for the forseeable future, the Peg2 will be the best hardware available for MOS, in terms of specs as well as level of support. So people who didn't get one yet should definitely consider getting one while they can still be bought.

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Well, you seem to be the one with the insider knowledge... Have you been told only half the story, Daniel?

That said, here is a rather old snippet from #morphos written by the head honcho himself: "the number of sales don't justify further development/nor support" (with regard to the desktop version of MorphOS on EFIKA)

Before you might be inclined to ask, I do not expect you to be on #morphos 24/7, and I am not surprised that you missed this. Even if you might have preferred a different and more widespread medium, it was said in public nonetheless.


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It should run Linux* alright as long as you buy a version with more than 128MB.

*= By saying "Linux", I obviously refer to easy to install standard distributions which can be setup by the average end user. Well respected uber-hackers surely get along with much less memory.

[ Edited by JoBBo on 2006/10/27 19:17 ]

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[ Edited by Velcro_SP 22.07.2011 - 06:50 ]

@Velcro

If the numbers written in various articles are true then MorphOS will not accelerate the 8MB/sec IDE bus.
My Amiga is faster (and it accepts more memory:-)

>EFIKA is not considered to have enough market potential for desktop users by the MorphOS Team.

Does MorphOS - without memory protection - have enough market potential for desktop users?

@ tarbos

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Clearly more so than (the current version of) EFIKA, at least.

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Or rather - does MorphOS - without *any* of the serious desktop applications and thus *completely without* the seious desktop usability - have enough market potential for desktop users?

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LOL!