Bounty-donate hardware and receive drivers
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Raf_MegaByte
    Posts: 430 from 2004/10/10
    From: Nella grande r...
    Elena Novaretti (ZoneXplorer) during a discussion in MorphOS-Yahoo-Italy had this idea:

    «Why don't we set up new kind of bounties? Bounty-donate Hardware!»

    These new type of bounties will collect money which then will be used to buy and donate new hardware solutions (audio cards, video cards, PCI expansion cards) to driver makers and driver experienced people.

    The coders who agree to realize the hardware driver and donate it to the community, then they will receive this new hardware as a gift to pay their job.(and maybe the hardware could been even expensive hardware) »

    This idea sure could be interesting to resolve our problems and having at least a sufficient number of drivers for new hardware solutions.

    I ask you if you think or believe if it is possible or not to realize this kind of donate-hardware bounty.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 278 from 2003/3/4
    What if someone agree to realize the hardware driver and donate it to the community, then they are not up to the task ?
    (How is doing the project of the guy who said he would do an AmigaOS if people could pay him the Mercury dual 970 system ?).

    Is it really worth to create a new bounty system when anyone
    can open a thread on Morphzone saying "offer x hardware for driver development and release" and get some feedback from developers ?

    Most of the time the problem is not getting the hardware but getting the documentation, the complexity of the task and the time required to complete and support the driver.

    The solution lies here: Developers developers developers
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    Robin
    Posts: 741 from 2003/2/24
    Find a developer, let him create a self-bounty
    with the goal of the price of your hardware ...

    (Weak point: Developers,developers,developers)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19
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    Its a good idea, but I have to agree with everyone else. I think the current system of getting a pool of money from all of us works best. Its not like we have a ton of people knocking on the door to write software. We could allways do this on a case by case basis too.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Raf_MegaByte
    Posts: 430 from 2004/10/10
    From: Nella grande r...
    Quote:


    Acill wrote:
    Its a good idea, but I have to agree with everyone else. I think the current system of getting a pool of money from all of us works best. Its not like we have a ton of people knocking on the door to write software. We could allways do this on a case by case basis too.


    I completely agree.

    We all must judge case by case basis on hardware mostly needed and regarding the choice of most talented driver makers who could bring us these drivers.
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  • »04.07.06 - 10:29
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  • MorphOS Developer
    bigfoot
    Posts: 510 from 2003/4/11
    There are several issues you're overlooking, I think.

    First of all you need hardware documentation. This is usually between hard and impossible to obtain, with the rare case of it being easy to obtain. In any case, you can expect this documentation to be incomplete or directly wrong. You're likely gonna spend a considerable amount of time just trying to figure out what's going on in the hardware when it doesn't work as documented. Even worse is it if you don't have any documentation - then you have to rely on another person's implementation to make your own driver. While this is doable, it's far from a perfect world, and you're lucky if you don't stumble into some sort of problem from doing things ever so slightly different than the driver you're basing your work on.

    Even if the documentation is perfect and the hardware has no bugs (HAR!), actually writing the driver takes quite some time, and testing it equally long. It's not a weekend job we're talking about, and in the extreme cases, say, the R200 3D driver, a lot and lot of time is spent on ironing out all the small issues. And then there's all the fun with different versions/revisions of the hardware having different bugs.

    In the end I'm not trying to discourage anyone from this, but expecting this to work for any slightly complex hardware is probably not very realistic. And then the price of the hardware is nowhere near in proportion to the amount of time it takes to write a driver for it. I would probably do such a thing if I didn't have a day job, though ;)
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  • »07.07.06 - 00:31
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Bladerunner
    Posts: 418 from 2004/2/19
    Ralf:
    Ok, sorry this is totaly OT and I try to be as polite as possible,
    but, could you pleeeeeeeeeease stop this "we need" and "us" talk?
    I don t remeber that anyone voted for you as a MorphOS Users Spokesman,
    and honestly, things you think are important (just remember your "We need skype posting")
    differs often from things *I* need or others may think are important.
    There is nothing wrong with telling what you like, I do the same from time to time (reminds me to start
    a new Emulator thread since the old got lost after the last MZ Crash)
    But please don t behave as if you speak for everyone, as you don t
  • »07.07.06 - 08:10
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