OPEN FIRMWARE REVISIONS
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Bladerunner
    Posts: 418 from 2004/2/19
    cdfr:
    IIRC, Cecilia`s Board is actually a pre April Board.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
    From: Los Angeles
    Neko

    I was going to ask the same question :-?

    Here is my info for kicks (and also because there is always a method to cdfr's madness :-) )

    Peg 2
    Rev 1.2
    build 20040810


    Would be great to get a comment from bplan on these numbers...

    magnetic
    Pegasos 2 Rev 2B3 w/ Freescale 7447 "G4" @ 1ghz / 1gb Nanya Ram
    Quad Boot: MorphOS 2.7 | Amiga OS4.1 U4 | Ubuntu PPC GNU/Linux | OS X 10.4
  • »03.04.06 - 16:46
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
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    analogkid
    Posts: 672 from 2004/11/3
    From: near myself
    Pegasos2 G3
    V1.2
    SF 1.2 (20040810)
  • »03.04.06 - 18:29
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  • Just looking around
    volm
    Posts: 13 from 2003/11/24
    From: Copenhagen
    PegasosII/G3 here...

    Board says:
    pegasos dual ppc
    rev: 2b1

    Cpucard says:
    pegasos cpu
    single 750 cx
    rev: 1.0

    OF (.properties) says:
    model: pegasos2, 1.1
    sf: 1.2 (20040402193939)
  • »03.04.06 - 18:46
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  • Just looking around
    Markus_Bieler
    Posts: 19 from 2004/3/20
    From: Switzerland / ...
    My PegasosII G4:

    SF 1.2

    Peg2 1.1

    20040224


    [ Edited by Markus_Bieler on 2006/4/3 21:33 ]
    :angel:
  • »03.04.06 - 20:29
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    maurensen
    Posts: 358 from 2003/10/3
    From: Padova - Italy
    Pegasos II/G4
    Version 1.2
    SmartFirmware 1.2 - 20040810

    Ola
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  • »04.04.06 - 07:45
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Neko
    Posts: 301 from 2003/2/24
    From: Genesi
    Here is the hard sell on the firmware:

    You are never going to know what the difference is between board revisions, and in any case it is not guaranteed to give you any hint by knowing what firmware revision is on it. Please do not "ask gently" or ask at all, as you will be met with what amounts to a disappointing response.

    The public differences: 2B4 and below used a Winbond clock chip. 2B5 and above use an ICS clock chip (see Power.org public specifications).

    Users should run the latest publically available firmware, if the one already installed on your system is not in fact much newer. For most Pegasos II owners this is the firmware that came with the machine. For the rest it's on the bplan site - but if you didn't upgrade already you probably broke your system doing setenv in firmware anyway :D

    There is no real intrinsic value to knowing how many hardware/software revision/combinations there are - in a very short time there will be a "1.3" firmware, for Pegasos II if not also for Pegasos I too, and EFIKA, and the HDB, and everything else, and it will all be useless information. Dare I say you are wasting your time with a boring numbers game?
    Matt Sealey, Genesi USA, Inc.
    Developer Relations
    Product Development Analyst
  • »04.04.06 - 10:31
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  • Butterfly
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    thefab
    Posts: 92 from 2003/8/19
    From: dtc
    Neko,

    i guess some people here are not bored with number games but instead, are bored of bugged firmwares.
  • »04.04.06 - 10:54
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  • Leo
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    Leo
    Posts: 419 from 2003/8/18
    Quote:


    thefab wrote:
    Neko,

    i guess some people here are not bored with number games but instead, are bored of bugged firmwares.


    :)
    Nothing hurts a project more than developers not taking the time to let their community know what is going on.
  • »04.04.06 - 10:56
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    Posts: 66 from 2003/10/5
    From: Rapallo (GE) I...
    Quote:

    i guess some people here are not bored with number games but instead, are bored of bugged firmwares.

    Yes, I'm rather bored with firmwares not allowing me to
    use any gfx cards combinations :b
  • »04.04.06 - 11:59
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 278 from 2003/3/4
    Even if we do not get the differences between the revisions we already got some interesting information and thanks to your post we just got more. We will see if Bplan can provide even more.
    The "Pegasos Book" so far does not list all the different Pegasos versions. Soon this information will be available.

    The point is certainly not to have all users beg for the latest release just for the sake of having it. If the user Pegasos works fine there is no point risking an upgrade that may only bring unneeded things.
    On the other hand if someone SF version is known to have a particular problem (for example a problem with a certain graphic card) I would recommend to this person to email bplan for asking for a SF upgrade. In this case the information that was provided in this thread may help.

    I am glad to learn today that soon there will be an 1.3 release available for everyone. It will be even better if it includes a change log and works on all boards :)

    I don't think I waste my time (there are several more useless things to do to waste time).
    Even if the conclusion is that there are only very minor changes between SF 1.2 revisions it is still information that help users understand better.
  • »04.04.06 - 12:22
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 278 from 2003/3/4
    Quote:

    CPU v1.2 front

    CPU v1.2 back

    What is the function ot the top left component that changes ?
    The plastic attachment for the fan are also different. Can anyone spot anything else ?
    And about 880 G4 CPU cards were made between your Pegasos and mine.

    [ Edited by cdfr on 2006/4/4 8:27 ]
  • »04.04.06 - 13:15
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  • Butterfly
    Butterfly
    Posts: 66 from 2003/10/5
    From: Rapallo (GE) I...
    I prehaps gave you wrong/imprecise info about my
    hardware. I just opened the case and had a look
    at the cpu card which reads clearly 1.1.
    See shots here:

    Front

    Back

    I didn't take off the mainboard so I cannot tell you
    for sure the PegasosII version, but typing

    cd /openprom
    .properties

    in OF tells me

    PegasosII,1.2 (so I assume it's 1.2)
    Relative-addresses
    Built-On 0x131CC6A (20040810)

    Firmware is 1.2 (20040810112413)

    But now I remember that when I bought my PegII
    (no card update, I bought it already with G4 1Ghz)
    OF 1.1 was installed. I later made the flash update
    to the 1.2 you see above but I don't remember where I
    downloaded it and/or who gave it to me.
    I don't experience any problems. Nor I could test
    by myself which gfx cards combo work and which not.
    I use a Radeon 7000 sapphire AGP DDR 64MB.

    I hope you find my info useful.
  • »05.04.06 - 11:56
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    cecilia
    Posts: 459 from 2003/8/30
    From: universe, milk...
    cdfr: i believe this is the info you asked me for

    th_82202_rev.jpg
    "if you ever slam anyone, for anything, somehow you always end up eating shoe" Targhan
  • »10.04.06 - 15:17
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Neko
    Posts: 301 from 2003/2/24
    From: Genesi
    The component on the top left that changes is part of the power regulation circuit.

    Most people who have a broken CPU card - where it dies from overheating or so - this is the little thing that fails.

    Luckily it's easier to replace than the CPU :)
    Matt Sealey, Genesi USA, Inc.
    Developer Relations
    Product Development Analyst
  • »10.04.06 - 18:14
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  • Order of the Butterfly
    Order of the Butterfly
    Posts: 278 from 2003/3/4
    Thanks for all the replies.

    Unfortunately the Pegasos Book Wiki has been hacked and Geoffrey is trying to recover it.
    Hopefully he will be able to do it and to make new versions with including the information that was collected in this thread.

    Please if you have a CPU card rev 1.0 post a picture to this thread. If you have anything not listed HERE
    please reply aswell.



    [ Edited by cdfr on 2006/4/10 14:55 ]
  • »10.04.06 - 19:36
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    XzIt
    Posts: 250 from 2005/1/19
    From: Norway
    Pegasos II G4
    Board: 1.2
    SF: 1.2 (20040810)
  • »17.04.06 - 16:36
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