New MorphOS User (Was: Problem Booting MorphOS . . .)
  • Order of the Butterfly
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    klesterjr
    Posts: 196 from 2005/4/1
    I got my Pegasos today (April 1).

    All went smoothly -- except for one thing.

    It has intermittant problems with booting. Sometimes it boots, sometimes it stops at the MorphOS logo. (Although it boots 100% of the time from CD).

    Don't have any other partitions set up yet, so I don't think it's a boot priority issue.

    Any ideas?

    Thanks.

    [ Edited by klesterjr on 2005/6/25 8:39 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19
    From: Port Hueneme, Ca.
    Do you have a USB pen drive or anything like that plugged in?
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    klesterjr
    Posts: 196 from 2005/4/1
    Nothing at all.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    klesterjr
    Posts: 196 from 2005/4/1
    Hmmmm . . .

    Seems to stop at the MorphOS startup screen ALL the time now (except when booting from CD).
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19
    From: Port Hueneme, Ca.
    Did you use a FFS partition for the boot.img? It must be a FFS
    partition. Best way it to create a 50MB partition or less even, I like
    50 because it gives me room to add any linux or other boot images in
    it if i need to. Call this boot or something. If you dont have the
    manual for the Pegasos let me know. I akso recomend using the install
    guide at pegasos.org I think.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    magnetic
    Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1
    From: Los Angeles
    klesterjr

    Congrats and welcome to the community. Here is a couple of ideas:

    1. Are you using 80wire flat good quality ide cables?

    2. try to put the cdrom as master on secondary and drive as master on primary

    3. does your RAM pass the Memtest in C: ??

    magnetic
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    klesterjr
    Posts: 196 from 2005/4/1
    Quote:

    I also recomend using the install
    guide at pegasos.org I think.


    That's what I used -- and it went very well -- except that it wouldn't boot reliably (actually, not at all after a while).

    I changed my DH0: to FFS & added a DH1: (also FFS) and reinstalled -- now it seems to be working fine.

    That doesn't seem like a likely reason for the booting problem, though. I wonder if there was a problem with the install the first couple of times?
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19
    From: Port Hueneme, Ca.
    All I know is the partition that has the boot.img must be FFS or you get messed up boots. If you had it on the same partition as the rest of the system that was it.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    klesterjr
    Posts: 196 from 2005/4/1
    Quote:


    Acill wrote:
    All I know is the partition that has the boot.img must be FFS or you get messed up boots. If you had it on the same partition as the rest of the system that was it.


    It was on a 50 meg FFS partition all by itself (I followed the directions very closely) :-) .

    After talking with you tonight -- I'm pretty sure that it was just a "borked" install caused either by not using an 80 wire IDE cable on my CDROM (Heh, heh -- I only had ONE!) or by my ancient 4x CDROM.

    I think I just got lucky that the install on the FFS partition went well.

    I'll scare up another 80 pin cable & a proper CDROM tomorrow and try again! ;-)
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Kamul
    Posts: 121 from 2004/6/9
    From: Poland, Katowice
    > After talking with you tonight -- I'm pretty sure that it was just a "borked"
    > install caused either by not using an 80 wire IDE cable on my CDROM (Heh,
    > heh -- I only had ONE!) or by my ancient 4x CDROM.

    80 wire cable is not so important for CDROM. Especially when CDROM is slow (like
    in your case). The 80 wire cables are required for most hard disks (IIRC for all
    which work in UDMA mode).
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    Toto
    Posts: 268 from 2003/4/20
    @klesterjr

    Are you using the latest MorphOS (1.4.5)? If so, on my Pegasos II I had the same problem with MorphOS 1.4.5, MorphOS wouldn't boot. But after putting wait 1 before Iprefs in my startup-sequence the problem was solved. I don't know if this also works on Pegasos I.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    klesterjr
    Posts: 196 from 2005/4/1
    Quote:


    Toto wrote:
    @klesterjr

    Are you using the latest MorphOS (1.4.5)? If so, on my Pegasos II I had the same problem with MorphOS 1.4.5, MorphOS wouldn't boot. But after putting wait 1 before Iprefs in my startup-sequence the problem was solved. I don't know if this also works on Pegasos I.


    I came across a thread about that -- sounded exactly like my problem. I've decided to stick with FFS (since it's working).

    This morning I changed the icons (to my own of course! ;-) ), and generally just "poked" around!

    A couple of observations . . .

    1) This puppy boots fast!

    2) The display updates/icon handling speed is unreal -- beats WinUAE/Amithlon by a ton!

    3) The 'ShutDown' menu item doesn't have an option to SHUT DOWN!

    4) The icon scaling is REALLY cool!

    A couple of questions . . .

    1) Is there a way to turn off "auto positioning" of icons?

    2) If I'm stuck with "auto positioning" -- can I change the icon spacing? The icons are too far apart from each other!

    3) Is there a way to "update" the Workbench after changing things (other than rebooting)?

    4) How do I get a higher display resolution? I've got a VooDoo 3 3000 with 16 megs, but I can't go over 800x600 (The refresh rate also seems really low).

    5) Is there a MorphOS manual somewhere! ;-)

    [ Edited by klesterjr on 2005/6/25 8:41 ]
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Jupp3
    Posts: 1193 from 2003/2/24
    From: Helsinki, Finland
    Quote:

    1) Is there a way to turn off "auto positioning" of icons?

    Probably not in the public releases of the new Ambient. Of course that might change later.

    Quote:

    4) How do I get a higher display resolution? I've got a VooDoo 3 3000 with 16 megs, but I can't go over 800x600 (The refresh rate also seems really low).

    Check System Settings / Mode Edit.
    I think there are some guides on creating screenmodes somewhere
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Acill
    Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19
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    Ken go into ambient settings and look under icons. There are a few things I think you are looking for in there.
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