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Pegasos II + G4 For Sale...

Sphinx_Ra

# 1
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 276 from 2003/3/14

From: The Netherlands

Hi ppl

I want to get rid of my Pegasos II, but
it's hard to get it for sale on Ebay etc tc...

So...

Trying here, maybe here are ppl who wants it
and be happy with it :)

Bey
»30.05.05 - 18:43

Acill

# 2
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19

From: Port Hueneme, Ca.

Why do you want to get rid of it? I'm sure it will sell fast if you offer it for a good price.
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»30.05.05 - 18:48

klesterjr

# 3
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 196 from 2005/4/1

How much?
»30.05.05 - 19:37

magnetic

# 4
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1

From: Los Angeles

Sphinx:

Why are you selling your peg? You are a user of MOS i know from all your postings... 1.5 is about to come out and the LInux support has never been better.. why leave now??

magnetic
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»30.05.05 - 21:49

gunne

# 5
Moderator

Posts: 441 from 2003/2/25

From: Sweden

magnetic:

He will soon buy a new one...

Gunne
Best wishes, Gunne
»30.05.05 - 21:56

Stevo

# 6
Priest of the Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 898 from 2004/1/24

From: #AmigaZeux

check your mail Sphinx
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»30.05.05 - 22:28

Acill

# 7
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19

From: Port Hueneme, Ca.

Let the bid wars start! Get it while its hot!
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»30.05.05 - 22:30

Phantom

# 8
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 381 from 2004/9/7

I don't know why you want to sell your Pegasos 2. Only if you want to buy AmigaOne with AmigaOS 4.0 I pressume.

I waited for 10 years now, for Amiga to bring up a new model since A1200 AGA, and I am very happy with my Pegasos 2.
»30.05.05 - 23:39

magnetic

# 9
Yokemate of Keyboards

Posts: 2129 from 2003/3/1

From: Los Angeles

Selling a Peg2/MOS for an A1/os4 is like selling a Ferrari to get a Honda accura..

magnetic
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»31.05.05 - 01:09

Felix

# 10
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 261 from 2003/3/13

From: Rotterdam, the...

1.5 about to come ?? To gain what ?
- ppc tcpip stack?
- firewire ??
- 3D Accel for more then voodoo ??
- full featured browser ??
- Altivec ?? pfff
- Real AGP mabe ?? :)

Linux support never been better ??
- Altivec ??
- Slow 3D
- Monsterly slow Debian
- Monsterly slow Mandrake
- Monsterly slow Gentoo
- Monsterly slow YDL
»31.05.05 - 05:05

Chain-Q

# 11
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 349 from 2003/10/12

From: 1 AU, EU, DE/HU

Quote:

1.5 about to come ?? To gain what ?
- ppc tcpip stack?

Sure. Anyway, i'm happy with MiamiDx, it perfectly does what i need. :)
Quote:

- 3D Accel for more then voodoo ??

Sure. BTW, the Voodoo drivers are also a _LOT_ better in 1.5, i can tell you.
Quote:

- Altivec ?? pfff

Sure. That's one of features i'm waiting for at most. I like to play with nice SIMD instructions. :)
Quote:

- Real AGP mabe ?? :)

No "real" AGP on Pegasos II, that's a chipset limitation. On Linux, it also works in PCIGart mode. But funnily enough, the bandwidth it provides is still faster than on "some other" PPC mainboard, claiming to have "real" AGP.

Quote:

Linux support never been better ??
- Altivec ??

Linux already has quite good Altivec support, i don't know what do you want to say with this... And it will be only better as time goes.
Quote:

- Slow 3D

Linux's 3D is slow on everything. Even with native binary drivers on x86. Well, i still agree that the case is lot worse on PPC.
Quote:

- Monsterly slow Debian

I'm running Debian Sarge at my office on a dual Pentium III/1Ghz, with 1GB RAM, and i'm sometimes crying, because the speed is so bad, compared to the same Debian running on my Pegasos II. Esp. I/O speed (eg. HDD) speed suffers, but sometimes the whole system is sluggish. So imo, while Linux is sluggish on everything, Pegasos II still runs it quite nicely. Gentoo is a lot faster on PPC, because on PPC compiler optimizations really counts, it's still slow compared to MOS, anyway. :)
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»31.05.05 - 08:03

itix

# 12
MorphOS Developer

Posts: 1520 from 2003/2/24

From: Finland

Sigh.

He can have whatever reasons to sell his Peg. Maybe he needs money, maybe he no longer needs it, maybe he no longer doesnt have time for it, maybe he is just bored. It shouldnt be end of the world if someone is selling his Pegasos.
1 + 1 = 3 with very large values of 1
»31.05.05 - 08:05

Chain-Q

# 13
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 349 from 2003/10/12

From: 1 AU, EU, DE/HU

Quote:

It shouldnt be end of the world if someone is selling his Pegasos.

I agree. Especially, if he's able to sell the machine, someone actually buys it, and continues to use it. It would be worse if he keeps it, but puts it into the attic to only collect dust. IMO.
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»31.05.05 - 08:25

deb

# 14
Butterfly

Posts: 76 from 2004/11/17

@Chain-Q

Do not pay attention to hem, people here in the Netherlands are always nagging about everything.
Today must be the Pegasos day
»31.05.05 - 08:59

Sphinx_Ra

# 15
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 276 from 2003/3/14

From: The Netherlands

Hi ppl,

@Acill

What's a good price you think ???
I saw this at Genesi site:
https://www.pegasosppc.com/store.php
499 Euro.. So maybe the half of it ?!
More ?! Less ?!

@Klesterjr

Where you from ?

@Magnetic

No time indeed, better somebody do something
usefull with it :)

@Gunne

Don't think so...
It's a great machine but doing little things with it,
so it's shame it's standing here for removing dust :P

@Stevo

I did, check yours :P

@Phantom206

No, not for AOne or something famialer, just want
to make a user/dev hapy with it, as i have no time for it :(

@Felix

Chill man, zo verkoop je natuurlijk nix ei :P

@Itix

Sigh indeed....

@ChainQ

That's why ;)

@deb

Absoluty True :P

Bye
»31.05.05 - 20:17

Acill

# 16
Paladin of the Pegasos

Posts: 1926 from 2003/10/19

From: Port Hueneme, Ca.

I think 350 Euro is a good price and fair
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»31.05.05 - 20:56

Stevo

# 17
Priest of the Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 898 from 2004/1/24

From: #AmigaZeux

@Sphinx

Checked and sent :D
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»31.05.05 - 21:52

klesterjr

# 18
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 196 from 2005/4/1

Quote:

Stevo wrote:
@Sphinx

Checked and sent :D

Am I to take it that it's already sold?
»31.05.05 - 22:36

Sphinx_Ra

# 19
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 276 from 2003/3/14

From: The Netherlands

@klesterjr

Yes, well... for 75 % i'm busy with Stevo
for set up a price, and he's a Dutch man
and give a long time ago 2 A4000 for free
so this is the first man i want to sell it to :)

Bye
»01.06.05 - 09:10

klesterjr

# 20
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 196 from 2005/4/1

Quote:

Sphinx_Ra wrote:
@klesterjr

Yes, well... for 75 % i'm busy with Stevo
for set up a price, and he's a Dutch man
and give a long time ago 2 A4000 for free
so this is the first man i want to sell it to :)

Bye

Sounds like a good deal for both of you.

Later.
»01.06.05 - 10:41

Felix

# 21
Order of the Butterfly

Posts: 261 from 2003/3/13

From: Rotterdam, the...

Quote:

Chain-Q wrote:
Quote:

1.5 about to come ?? To gain what ?
- ppc tcpip stack?

Sure. Anyway, i'm happy with MiamiDx, it perfectly does what i need. :)

It will get you about half the speed you should get.

Quote:

- 3D Accel for more then voodoo ??

Sure. BTW, the Voodoo drivers are also a _LOT_ better in 1.5, i can tell you.

Are you listening to yourself ??? Voodoo??
Wich fleamarket can i get a voodoo today ?????? ;P

Quote:

- Altivec ?? pfff

Sure. That's one of features i'm waiting for at most. I like to play with nice SIMD instructions. :)

Sure, it will fix the whole situation...

Quote:

- Real AGP mabe ?? :)

No "real" AGP on Pegasos II, that's a chipset limitation. On Linux, it also works in PCIGart mode. But funnily enough, the bandwidth it provides is still faster than on "some other" PPC mainboard, claiming to have "real" AGP.

Well why don't you do a google search for glxgears fps output, compaire most X86 machines with PPC..

Quote:

Linux support never been better ??
- Altivec ??

Linux already has quite good Altivec support, i don't know what do you want to say with this... And it will be only better as time goes.
Quote:

- Slow 3D

Linux's 3D is slow on everything. Even with native binary drivers on x86. Well, i still agree that the case is lot worse on PPC.

Wow .. :)

Quote:

- Monsterly slow Debian

I'm running Debian Sarge at my office on a dual Pentium III/1Ghz, with 1GB RAM, and i'm sometimes crying, because the speed is so bad, compared to the same Debian running on my Pegasos II. Esp. I/O speed (eg. HDD) speed suffers, but sometimes the whole system is sluggish. So imo, while Linux is sluggish on everything, Pegasos II still runs it quite nicely. Gentoo is a lot faster on PPC, because on PPC compiler optimizations really counts, it's still slow compared to MOS, anyway. :)

I hope you're right on this one :)
»01.06.05 - 10:56